Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:01 The road to one million celebration made history. 00:07 But history has a sequel. 00:10 Oh, it's possible. One million wasn't the final destination. 00:15 Yes, we are now on the road to two million. 00:21 Every podcast and chill network host under one roof. 00:27 One stage, one night. Wow. 00:30 Wow, indeed. It is the podcast event of all podcast events. I think we've got a plan. And I like it. This is going to be one for the books. Where and when? On the 12th of December at Grand West Grand Arena in Cape Town. Where do I sign up? On the Quicket website. It's going to be epic. So get your tickets right now before they sell out. 00:54 Calling all chillers. 00:57 Assemble. 01:02 Welcome to Podcasts. 01:28 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 01:47 Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the realest episode of Music Pulse. Allegations. 01:59 Wait, I can read, but hold on, don't just... Nick, we just started the fucking episode. There's so much chaos already. Wait, it says, I categorically deny these allegations as they are completely false and without factual basis. I'm not friends with the gentleman in question. 02:16 Who is the gentleman? DJ Shimza. No, have I ever been romantically or intimately involved with him. Being seen in the same social environment as someone does not justify such damaging assumptions. I've always respected the institution of marriage. Shimza's married. 02:32 Okay, so wait, who is the lady first? 02:35 Shaleen. 02:35 That's exactly what my soul was saying. It was saying being seen with someone in the same space doesn't mean you were that person. So there's always assumptions made by a son. You don't have to defend him before he finishes the same man, bro. No, no. I was just saying so that we don't forget. It's okay to protect your bag. Wait. No, I'm not protecting nothing. No, she's denying You are not understanding what I'm saying. You're thinking I'm being defensive. I was saying that's exactly what my soul said. At some point in the interview, he said that he left some lounge, right, on a plane to go to another one because there were celebrities there. 03:08 And he knew that people don't want to see it. You understand what I'm saying? Who's an idiot? 03:13 The importance of stable homes and the sanctity of family. I would never knowingly involve myself in circumstances that could compromise another woman's marriage or disrupt her home. My soul's not married, so he's an idiot. He doesn't know about this. What makes this particularly upsetting is that Ati... How? She doesn't name the guy she's associated with, but she names Ati. Who is Ati? Ati is the president's Twitter... 03:41 Oh, yeah, yeah. TikTok. She's stylish. 03:45 She's the chief TikTok officer of the president. 03:47 Okay, yeah. 03:48 Yeah. Ati is a woman CTO. There's a big executive position. 03:53 I genuinely admire, respect and look up to. Look up to for what? For Twitter. For TikTok. Considering her responsibilities in public service and governance. Governance. Okay, I guess she governs what he tweets, yes. I find the timing of these allegations deeply concerning, especially during a politically sensitive period. Oh, why is she associating this with politics? Isn't Shimza not part of politics? 04:15 I paid him 600k for that, right? 04:17 He's not part of politics, right? He's not part of the corruption, right? 04:21 Right? I'm asking you, Pat. 04:24 Considering her responsibilities... Okay, sorry, my bad. 04:49 I do not mind people having opinions about me, but publishing false allegations without evidence is irresponsible and unacceptable. I respectfully request that the false publication be retracted and removed. I reserve my rights to pursue appropriate legal remedies should these allegations continue. My respect for Ati and her family remains unwavering. And I ask that everyone's dignity and privacy be respected. 05:13 Can I say a picture of Charlene? 05:15 Charlene-ish. We don't have one. Scarlet. 05:18 No, she's a yellow bone though. 05:20 I say Charlene. 05:21 Charlene. 05:23 You know how these people are. They get creatives with their kids' names. Hold on, let me search Shimza. I'm sure... Shimza married. Yes. People are asking, is Shimza married? Here she is. 05:34 I'll send it to the group. 05:35 No, I want to see now so I can have my opinion. 05:37 Okay, hold on. Let me send it to the group. 05:39 I'll say her body is in better shape than Artie's. 05:47 Ah, no, I don't want to see Artie anymore. 05:49 Ah, Artie doesn't have shape. 05:51 Why are you disrespecting Artie, dog? 05:53 No, she doesn't have shape. No, no, no, but let's not do it. No, no, let's dwell on it. No, no, no, no, don't disrespect Artie. 06:02 Oh, you said she's in better shape. No, I'm just agreeing to seeing the picture. I can see the picture. We can see Artie's shape, dog. I can see the picture. This is curvy, dog. I haven't seen Ati's shape. She's not Ramaphosa's type. I think I've only seen Ati's face, not her shape. I also see... 06:15 But I want you to finish the story so that you say... That was the story. The story is that she's alleging that Shimza's married. She's alleging that Shimza's married. That's it. That whole statement. That's all it is. The first time we've ever read that Shimza's apparently married is... This. Not even in news and music was that alleged. 06:34 Okay. So that's all you picked up from that whole statement? She's trying to say that Shimza's married. What else did she say in the statement? That's it. 06:41 But why would you just say that? Did the people say she's dating Shimza or not? They said she's a hook-up girl. They said he paid her. He gave her potla and then she gave him his. 06:53 Okay, wait. So you're saying people are saying she sold Shimza pussy. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, exactly. Shit. Why would Shimza buy pussy, bro? 07:01 Why are we introducing gossip? There's no facts to the story. 07:03 That's what I'm asking. Why would Shims abide? 07:07 They've got money. They've got both worlds. 07:09 This is mere gossip. 07:10 That's why the poor girl, even though it's not as far as releasing a statement, saying she respects families, you know, and stuff like that, just being seen with someone in the same section doesn't mean that you're together. So why would she make allegations in her statements? I know so much about allegations. Allegations have been made about me the whole year with me and Mars. You understand? I know about allegations. We must. Talk about those allegations. For as long as there isn't concrete, solid proof. Is that where you want to go? I knew he planned it. You understand? To talk about it. For as long as there isn't any solid, concrete proof that this thing actually happened. 07:44 It's mere gossip. It's entirely gossip. We shouldn't be entertaining this as grown men, especially coming from you, Nodana. 07:51 I'm highly disappointed. I understand you have one up for Shimza. I don't have one up for Shimza. I'm defending him. 08:01 That's why I'm reading this statement. This one disassociates him from those allegations, but it says he's married. I'm just saying like, yo, is he married? 08:07 I don't know you to be a gossiper. No, I'm not a gossiper. 08:10 I'm not a gossiper, dog. 08:11 I'm disappointed. Why? You're more like in like direct political shit, like serious matters, not gossip. 08:18 Like about my soul. 08:18 No, that's an authority like. 08:20 You know, my soul said something, and I found it so stupid, right? Is that your pulse now? 08:25 No. Let him, let him. Let him go into his pulse all the time. 08:29 No, let him talk about myself first. Hold on. So that he can... Is that my pulse? My pulse, my soul. 08:32 Yeah, that's your pulse. 08:34 Is that his pulse? Yeah. Oh, shit. I'm leaking the show. Oh, you're leaking the show? Oh, man, let's intro the show then before we get into pulses, man. Yo, what is up, pulses, man? Welcome to Music Pub. Thank you, sir. 08:48 Benji is back! And that's the Benjamin Dube. No, it's not Benjamin Dube. It's Dumim Gokstad. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Do you hear about Dumim Gokstad? Who's that? 08:59 I know Dumim Gokstad. It's the gospel, dog. It's a gospel artist. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there a story there? What happened there? 09:05 You don't know that file. I don't know the file. 09:10 I don't know the file. 09:13 So Dumim Gokstad was rocking this other hand. 09:16 He was rocking this other Han. So now this Han, he finds out, is rocking C-list, D-list, upcoming artists. 09:26 As the display picture. 09:40 On this upcoming artist profile on the display phone. I don't know. People put like girls on their display pictures. I don't do that. 09:47 Wow, okay. 09:48 I mean, I put Cape Town and my network. So he then sends her a DM on IG, I think, to say, yo, I'm at the studio. Pull up. 09:59 Batum. 10:00 She's like, okay. Come, let's pray. Come. Let's pray. 10:05 I need to talk to you about something. 10:08 Then he sends her an Uber. 10:11 To Uber her to the studio. 10:14 Kanti, this stupid upcoming artist is so excited that he's in studio with Tumim Kokstad. He posts a WhatsApp story. 10:20 So this honey then sees the WhatsApp story. She's like, hey, Tumim Kokstad. Trying to send me to Kokstad. 10:26 Maximum. 10:28 Imagine. Exactly. Kanti, no. No. 10:32 The guy is there and they're discussing how they're going to trap this lady and then she decided to run away. But now the whole entire story is all over Facebook. It's on the village. 10:41 So you believe gospel allegations, but you don't believe the Shimza allegations. 10:57 You don't believe he's buying. 10:58 That's how you know Nuta has one up with someone. No, no, no, no, no. That's how you know when he doesn't let go. When he doesn't let go of stuff, he keeps bringing it up. No, no, no. No, no, no, bro. 11:08 I was keeping that in the fridge. Okay. 11:12 Oh, it's no shame. It's no shame. Were you guys pressing it last week? I pressed it once. Oh, yeah. Dope stuff. A couple of times. Oh, a couple of times? Did you enjoy the episode? I don't watch. Why wouldn't you watch? I didn't want to. Chris has said he wants a job. Oh, that's dope. Give him the job. 11:28 No, oh, no. If you guys think he deserves it. He said, I'll take your job when he was drunk. No, I can't. Can you take his job? He was drunk. He's not a fit. Imagine. He was drunk? Taki on 5FM. That would work, I won't lie. No, no, no. Taki Shabzi. Medallion. Hip-hop. Put me on there. Put me on. Damn it. Tell them. 11:46 Tell them authority. Oh, SBC. Wait. Would you take his job? Would you take his job? A radio job. I'd do a radio job. Anytime. Would you take his business job? Not his job. I'd take a radio job. So his job you wouldn't take? I think I'd do it better. I'd do it sober. 12:05 No, but there's no rock. There's no rock. I'm not him, but I would do it so bad. It's a neat. But you said they were lit yesterday. They were lit? They were lit? Which one? Which one? The one we know, the one we don't know. 12:18 Which one? What are we talking about? What were they lit off of? 12:22 Ah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, I don't know. All right, all right, okay. 12:24 They were lit. The lights are on, Tibla lit them up. 12:31 Tibla was doing his job. 12:32 Did you guys have a nice episode last week? No, we didn't, man. Oh, yeah? It was boring as fuck, bro. 12:37 Sorry. I have so much respect for Shamiso both and Spista, but I don't think... 12:44 Put me and Spista and Shamiso and Nota in the same place is the right thing to do. 12:50 Who do you blame for that? I would have hosted the show with Shamiso and Nota only. 12:56 It's not a rock. My honest opinion is... It's not a rock. 13:01 My honest opinion is I think Shamisu could have done the job alone and do it better than with them doing it together. Because now we can't even rock anymore. Because now you must think of what you say. I mean, I rocked. Your boyfriend is here. I knew they were going to catch it in the comments. It became why did you get married type of show. I mean, I was rocking. 13:21 I was throwing them subliminals, but I knew they wouldn't get it. I got a lot of messages. No, no, no. The internet went crazy, bro. Of course. 13:28 Oh, yeah? Yeah. I posted a story on Instagram and I was surprised. People sent me messages saying, you'll never miss work again. What are you guys doing here? I don't know. You guys are jinxing up the show. We love you guys the way you are. Don't bring guests. No. Like we have a job show happening. Oh, okay. I know my limits. Okay. 14:00 No, no, sir. Like... 14:02 We have something dope happening between the three of us. Like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I would never personally wake up in the morning and decide not to show up and work. 14:10 Yeah. 14:11 If there's something I can do about it. Yep. I would never do that. Because I know what it does to the show. Do you understand what I'm saying? And to the fans of the show. So I wouldn't. So that's the reason why from now on, until we come back from Cape Town, you're a bitch. 14:25 Because you have gold. I'm not justifying. I came to work last week Sunday and I had to leave because there was an emergency. 14:31 I had to leave because there was an emergency. You called me. 14:44 There's a seducional obligation. She should have come see you. Are you okay, dog? We have a good thing going on. Don't fuck it up, dog. Come to work, please, bro. You know? And in that moment, I was like, fuck, man, we really have a good thing going on. And people love it. 14:58 And apart from that, I care about your ass. 15:00 No, no, I wouldn't miss work intentionally. 15:03 I wouldn't miss work intentionally. 15:05 Imagine having to work at SABC in fun. 15:10 Damn it. I'm just saying. 15:12 I personally apologize for what happened last week. I had an emergency at home. That's why I couldn't shoot. But it's all sorted now. Everything went well. Your house was on fire. We're going to rock. Let's rock, bro. Welcome back, Benji. Tahi's here. And this is Music Pulse, the one that you love, man. We thought my soul took you. What's on your pulse, Monotana? What's on your pulse? 15:34 My soul didn't take you. Way too. I don't know. He's installing another podcast or something, competition or something like that. You know that's how he rocks, right? 15:42 Podcast and mining? That nigga don't have time for that shit, dog. 15:45 He just book Saul. Podcast and drill. You don't book Saul. He book Saul. 15:49 Saul is going to play. Hey, bro. Hey, hey, my son. I'm going to start DJing. Me, I don't rock you. 15:56 Hey Mia, don't rock you. 15:59 Deal with him. This is my thing. Everyone ngalas themselves. 16:06 He said I was too busy for him, but he came back and you know... When Meg G saw a 3.9 million rand watch for the first time in front of his face, 16:21 What watch was that? What watch was that? What is it called, man? 16:23 You think McG's grandfather didn't ever watch? 16:25 It was an EP, right? 16:27 Oh, Richard Millie. 16:28 Miller. Richard Miller. That's like 4 million rands, bro. 16:32 That's the one that Jay-Z is always rocking. He's always rocking those Richard Miller watches. 16:36 And my soul just rocks it to go shoot a podcast. 16:38 I mean, those watches are overpriced, dog. 16:40 Oh, yeah? 16:40 They're overpriced. They're not made. Where's yours? I don't have one. I don't buy watches. I don't wear chains, dog. Watch six years ago episodes of Podcasts and Chill. You'll be updated. So, as I was saying... 16:56 I make everyone rich. That's the difference. Yeah. Unlike my soul. 17:01 What did he do? He's making his province poor. 17:05 Like I say, I fly over this country in light aircraft because I got friends that got light aircraft. Yeah. And some of you don't even have friends that can put together 50,000 if you need it. You understand what I'm saying? Some of you don't. My soul doesn't. You understand what I'm saying? If he had to put together five of his friends, he had no money. 17:23 None of them have money anyway. 17:25 They don't. That's big. They just worship him. 17:27 That's why they... Oh, no, you gave me 50,000. Oh, my goodness, I'm twerking. He just said one of his friends bought something that's in his company. 17:34 His friend. Yeah, yeah. His friend. Is that really a friend? His friends are the people that he started with out there in the fucking bushes. No, no, but he said one of his friends he started with. Those are not his friends, man. Those are people that are making money with him right now. Those are business associates. Do you understand what I'm saying? 17:46 But he said these are the same people I started with. 17:48 These people have been my friends. That my soul has ever received in his life that he hasn't had to pay for. 17:53 There's no what? Pussy. Pussy. 17:55 Do you know his hit list? Mac didn't finish reading it. 17:57 It doesn't matter. He's saying before the money. He's saying before the money. Nigga, do you know who I am? Do you know my hit list, nigga? Shit, nigga. What the fuck is my soul doing? Nothing. Nothing. Not even close. Give us five. No, I don't need to do that. 18:12 Anyway. You need to. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. 18:16 Your friends want to know. 18:19 No, my friends know. 18:21 I don't do OnlyFans. 18:23 So, my soul came here to kiss the ring. 18:29 And then he wants to be arrogant about it. Go to court, expose that, yo, dog, you're doing some serious stuff if you're getting court orders. 18:38 Like, at the drop of a hat like that, you can get a court order like this. A judge can rush to fucking court. The last person we saw doing that was Tammy. 18:47 After I did that, what did he do? 18:48 He appeared... 18:50 On the dock. Applying for bail. 18:53 For extortion. 18:55 Intimidation. You're following. You understand what I'm saying? He sent intimidating voice notes. Those are private. Those are not even public. You understand what I'm saying? 19:08 This nigga intimidating McG on his own show saying, no, I'm still going to rock you. I'm still going to take you to whatever. I'm still going to hit you in court. What are you trying to say? That you bought the judges? Is that the allegation that you're trying to make? How do you know guaranteed that in court you're going to win? 19:23 You're bringing your case. You're bringing your claim. You are kissing the ring. You are on the exact show that you tried to interdict from airing. You are more famous now than you've ever been. McG made my soul. 19:34 No one knew my soul before McG mentioned him. 19:37 No one knew my soul. 19:41 As South Africans, we didn't know there was a my soul character until we heard about him from Ankle Tap and McG. Oh, there's this guy in the Northwest. He's my neighbor. His name is my soul. He's into mining. That was the first time South Africans heard of a my soul character. 19:55 People only know you because of McG, motherfucker. 19:59 I don't care how many holes you drill. 20:01 Like I said, I fly around in light aircraft and what's happening in the Northwest is disgusting, guys. The Northwest has lost all its beauty. I was in Limpopo this past weekend by Jane First. It's a cocoon land in your homeland. They've got nice rocks. Those rocks look like they were placed on top of each other by God himself. 20:18 Oh, yeah, I know. Do you understand what I'm saying? I know what the place is talking about. It wasn't there by lead, eh? 20:23 Yeah, I went to Lee's Resort. Yeah, I went to Lee's Resort. Yeah, I went to Lee's Resort. Yeah, Lee took me on a fake holiday. So then I got a trade exchange real holiday. Yeah. Shout out to my lady. 20:38 So that's the beauty that we're going to be missing in the Northwest. 20:43 He lives in the fucking slums. He says, no, I don't want to get a house in Santana or whatever. You live in the fucking slums, dog. There's potholes bigger than your 23-inch rims. 20:53 Everywhere you drive, your cars, your entire fleet, your Lamborghinis and everything else, it's absolute squalor. It's absolute squalor. People... are suffering from diseases like dysentery, which have been eradicated in our neighborhoods. Did you talk to Benji, bro? No. Why would I need to talk to Benji? I don't need to talk to Benji, nigga. I said I fly over the Northwest in light aircrafts. And these guys are hollowing out the earth. 21:15 Cesar Lomo said an important thing. And it's like a moral dilemma that he chooses to battle with on his own. I don't. I don't get into mining. 21:23 I don't get into the mining business because of what it does to the earth. 21:26 And the fact that these people came here to destroy our planet, came here to destroy our land. 21:31 We're losing land right now. In KZN, they're giving people title deeds. Why? Because they want to move them. Because 80% of South Africa's coal reserves are in KZN. 21:40 The coal they haven't mined out of the Mpumalanga province. You can't even drive to Barberton without being hit by a haze of smoke. 21:50 On the N4. A haze of... It's like the most toxic... It's like the world is ending. When the sun sets in Pumalanga, it's like the world is ending, dog. It's like Armageddon. That's the damage that mining is doing. 22:03 That's the damage that mining... Our roads, the trucks that drive up and down. 22:08 The chromium that they're digging up. If you drive on the N4, the same N4 that gets you from Pumalanga, to northwest towards the Botswana border. The damage that's being done, dog, they're mining next to the highway now. 22:21 Next to the highway, everything is being dug up, is being destroyed, dog. That's something that you want to celebrate. You want to get rich off of that, dog. Your grandchildren are going to live in a post-Armageddon world. 22:33 And you're going to have made a profit off of that. That's what you're making money off of. It's the dirtiest business. It's a very dirty business. There's nothing to be proud of in that. You've got no talent. You've got no actual ability. 22:45 Nothing whatsoever. You're stealing from God. God put those minerals in the ground. 22:50 Not for you to get rich. 22:52 You understand what I'm saying? God put those minerals in the ground. You're stealing from God. That's your contribution to the economy is to steal from God. 23:00 Stealing from God. Competing against the Westerners, competing against the Chinese to dig up our minerals, saying, ah, well, the Chinese and the Westerners are going to dig up our minerals, so I might as well get in. Nah, B. Nah, B. There's nothing to be proud of that. 23:14 Okay, so I heard the negatives about what you said about myself. Hold on, hold on. I'm not rocking. It's a question. 23:20 Yeah, there's no positive. There's nothing positive. There's no positive. That nigga's taking people to school, bro. How many employees does that guy have? Mike Teke took my girlfriend to school. Because he has a school. My girlfriend went to Mike Teke's school. I bump into Mike Teke all the time. Driving up William Nichol. He lives in Bryanston. 23:36 Mike Teke. You understand? The nigga that supplies the coal that keeps the lights on. 23:41 You're asking if they were lit last week. Mike Teke provided that light. 23:44 Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? 23:47 And I bump into him. 23:48 He doesn't have 20,000 bodyguards. That's Mike Decker, dog. A real billionaire, dog. You understand what I'm saying? Neil Froneman. 23:57 The CEO of Sibanya Stillwater. 24:01 One of the biggest gold mines is owned by them. My dad used to work there, South Deep. One of the deepest. I think he goes like maybe 14, 15 kilometers underground. So it's okay when it's a white person mining and not a black person. No, no, no. I'm saying... No, but you just mentioned two white people now. Mike Tech is white. I guess he's a yellow bone. He's a super yellow bone. He is. He's not a white man. He's a black man. Mike Tech. 24:20 Okay, the second one you mentioned, is it no white? 24:23 He is. He is. 24:24 And he's not into mining? Why are you glorifying him and not my soul? 24:27 I'm not glorifying him. 24:27 You just did. I'm not glorifying him. He's going on the ground. 24:31 No, he's the CEO. He's hired. He works for the mining company. I own shares in that mining company. So it was for me. 24:37 That's why you and my soul have a beef. 24:44 No, and our shares are doing terribly. Sibania, still water. You know? They bought into mining, allegedly. No, I buy shares, yes. I don't mind. I don't do the dirty work. But you're part of it. Come on. What do you mean? You're also into mining. What do you mean? 25:00 He's doing the actual mining. Do you understand what I'm saying? He's doing the actual mining. He's actually digging in that ground. He's doing it, dog. No. Hold on, hold on, hold on. 25:18 No, I honestly think that my soul crash out wasn't valid. That's fishing for clout, honestly. It's not fishing for clout, dog. I don't need clout, dog. My soul knows who I am. 25:28 I don't know who the fuck he is. I don't know who the fuck he is. He's been watching me, dog. He has me on his phone. Do you understand what I'm saying? He responds to things I've said in places that are not here. So he watches me everywhere I go. Do you understand? He follows me around. 25:44 Do you understand what I'm saying? You know how to clickbait, my leader. 25:46 No, it's not about clickbaiting, dog. I'll give you that one. 25:48 So you're going to come here, pretend you're coming to respond to Benji, dog. You can deal with Benji in court. If you're dealing with Benji, if you're dealing with McG in court, you can deal with Benji in court. You don't need to come to the podcast and kiss the ring. You need to come to the podcast because you want the fame, dog. You want the fame. That's why you've got the convoys, dog. 26:05 That's the thing. You're a little man. Neil Froneman runs Sibania Stillwater, doesn't roll around with all those bodyguards, right? And they're digging up much, much more than my soul is. My soul is working for those companies. He doesn't own a mine. These guys own mines. 26:19 But he never said he owns a mine. 26:20 That's what I'm saying. But he never said he does. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, dog. He doesn't own the mine. He works for the mines. That's it. He works for the mines. He's not a boss. So you can't come here and act like you're a boss, my nigga. You're not a boss, dog. You're not a boss, my dog. You can't... He's got accomplishments around the world, dog. You have to go from first class to business class to network. He doesn't, dog. He's sitting at the tallest building in South Africa. 26:50 Do you understand what I'm saying? 26:54 That's where he's sitting, as a guy with accomplishments. So now you're going to come here, flex your money on poor people who don't have shit, who don't understand shit, and then lie to us and say, yeah, I borrowed the bank money. Who the fuck are you, nigga? You're not Tito Mboweni, nigga. 27:10 You're not Jill Marcus, nigga. You're not Liseja Khanyako, nigga. 27:15 You know? 27:16 Exactly. I feel like his mind pains you so much that you feel like... I've got accomplishments, dog. I've got accomplishments. One day... I don't have baby mamas running around. 27:27 One day people are going to catch up to your nonsense. What nonsense? See, so what's on your pulse, man? 27:30 What nonsense? One day is one day. When is one day coming, dog? What's on my pulse, man? Yo, shit, man. So we shot last week. I mean, last week Sunday was a bad day for me, like completely. Now that I analyze my entire day. Came here, my co-host is not here. 27:46 And after that, shoot one of the most horrible episodes of my life. 27:53 One of the most corporate episodes of my life. 27:56 That shit was corporate, bro. 27:58 Shit was corporate. But they couldn't cooperate. 28:01 That shit was not a good show at all. I wouldn't mind trying a show just with Shamiso. I wouldn't mind. Not with the two of them. But stop. So I'm like, let me go support Pore. 28:13 That's offside. 28:15 That's offside. 28:16 You're saying you're not going to do a show with Speedster? 28:20 I'm not praying for it. 28:21 Okay, cool. 28:23 I'm not praying for it. It's not a rock. He was on onsite. He'll be surprised. And they're after us. He'll be surprised. 28:30 Of what? Just carry on. No, no, no. Do you want to hear me? No, no, no. Bro, if I am to host a show with that nigga, I'm resigning. 28:38 Okay. 28:39 Tough. You're not resigning. 28:41 Like I'm resigning. I don't hate him. I love him. Energy top. Top energy off screen. Then why would you resign? No, no, no, no, no. I would not do a show with him. Listen, I'm doing this show with the two of you here. 28:53 Yeah. 28:54 That's it. 28:55 We've lost enough. 28:56 Okay. Right? That's enough for me. Because it's not even for me shooting the podcast for me or doing this podcast. It becomes beyond money or salary. 29:07 You understand what I'm saying? It's beyond that. Give me your salary, nigga. Come on, bro, listen. 29:12 What are you going to do with it, nigga? I understand what you're saying. You can't even book yourself a holiday with that shit, nigga. 29:17 I don't know. You can't. 29:21 I don't know. What are you going to do with it? I don't know. 29:24 He's going to pour three full tanks in his car. I don't know. You want to tell us how much is it? How much is a full tank, by the way? 29:31 How much is a full tank? Tristina. 29:34 In my couch house, bro. Oh, yeah. Now I'm on like probably one nine. Oh. Full tank. One nine? Yeah, one nine. 29:41 No, there's no ways. There's no ways, dog. Your tank is 62 liters. 29:45 Yeah, but when last did I put full tank? 29:47 In this economy. Hey, hey, hey. 29:52 Your tank is low. Now you're going to come. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. Don't touch me. Okay, yeah. No, your tank is one nine. 29:58 Yeah, you're right. 62 liters on the dot. Well done. 30:01 My work. 30:03 Shit, my tank is huge, dog. 30:05 Fuck. Your tank is huge? Yeah, because I just poured my tank, dog. 30:12 My tank. The tank that I used to go to the mountains. It's not Fiesta. It's not a Fiesta, it's a Figo. 30:20 2019. 30:20 Just to close what I was saying, but it's not about the money, how much money I make, how much money I don't make and stuff like that. Remember how hard it was in the beginning for me to work with Nota, right? Oh, it was hard? Yeah, it was. It was horrible. But now, it was. Past tense. Is that not the right English? No. 30:40 So now I'm fond of Nota. 30:45 What about you wanted Flickstock? I wanted him. 30:48 No, I'm fond of Nota. I care about Nota. I understand how he works. I like working with him now. I wouldn't choose any better person in that chair. I don't think of anyone. Bro, let me be honest with you. One day, Dudu and I were looking for someone to sit on your chair because you were going to... Where were you going? Pumalang, I think. I don't know. Limpopo. 31:06 No, we wanted to shoot on Saturday and he couldn't shoot on Saturday and we had to move the shoot to Sunday. 31:12 Three hours calling each other. Oh, how about this one? Oh, no, no, no, no. There's no match. 31:17 So I realized then, okay, fuck. I don't understand how much I fell in love with these brews, bro. You understand? 31:24 Hey, hold on. I was so amazing. 31:31 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! 31:34 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! 31:38 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! 31:40 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! 31:59 I'll break you. I won't be able to mend you. 32:03 I don't have to ask people what it means. Yeah, I didn't know what it meant, bro. It was crazy. You had fun when you were shooting with Ngiz right there. No, no. 32:12 I had the most fun there. That shit was dope, bro. Ngiz was fun, bro. That's fucking amazing. 32:17 Dog, that shit was so much fun. I forgot to watch PNC that day. 32:21 You watch PNC? Yeah, I usually do. You watch PNC? Yeah, all the time. Hi, Fiji. 32:27 How? He actually hosted the thing. He hosted the... Who? 32:31 No, he didn't host PNC this week. 32:33 No, I'm saying the awards. He did a good job. Yes, he must stay there. 32:35 Oh, he must stay there? The content creator awards. He must stay there. No, seriously. Like, I realized that actually that PNC show without pops actually pops. Tabiso, Farida, Tsitsi. Amazing. For real? Podcasting. Yes, amazing. 32:50 Why do you think Pops is brain conscious too much? Like, you know what I mean? 32:56 Like, he's holding the show back. He should be on, like, father figures. They did father figures with Penwell and his brother. 33:01 Oh, yeah? 33:03 I didn't think you were going to talk about Penwell. Why? Okay. 33:05 He's agreeing. Why? Finish your thing and let's leave Penwell. Get back to Penwell. 33:09 So, I went to support Pori. Pori and I have a good relationship lately. And I'm trying to get him to give me a verse. I'm at the man on my album, remember? 33:17 Oh, yeah. 33:18 So, I'm like, ah, let me go show support. So, he was hosting an event. You went returning the shades. 33:24 Hmm? Hmm. 33:26 Those are expensive shades. 33:29 Very expensive. Did you take 40 shades? No. 33:33 They're in the car even now. They're in an Uber. Bro, let me finish so we can carry on with the show, man. I'm too excited, man. 33:42 Okay, actually, you're right. 33:43 Come down, bro. 33:45 So I go support for... So that place, what's the name of that place? DX something. 33:51 DX something here in Midrand. D48. No, D48 is the owner of the venue also. The owner of the D48 is some guy that owns that DX something. We hosted... 34:03 Yeah, and function. 34:04 Yeah, and function there. I think our first one. Fellas Fun House. 34:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Fellas Fun House. Beautiful spot. It's got a pool and stuff. Yeah, beautiful spot, bro. And the party's event, really dope, dog. Like, the setup is dope. Hey, bro, everybody who's in the music industry, about piano, what, what, all of them were there. Mate, Bruce, there. I was having fun, dog. So when I was there, park my car, cool. Parked the car close to the entrance. Okay. Right? Okay. 34:33 And then I go inside. So we're chilling, we're chilling, we're chilling. I ordered a bottle. 34:42 Yeah, Hennessy. I said I want VS. But I want VS. I can only order VSOP. I'll shop. Order VSOP when it comes. 3. something, dog. Close to 4,000 with a dash and water. Close to 4,000. 34:56 No, man. No, man. No, man. This bottle is not the one that Hennessy recognizes. Hennessy doesn't recognize that bottle I drank that day, bro. 35:05 That one. 35:06 But you speak Chinese, not French. 35:07 How was it? 35:10 And it's not as if I was drunk because when we were shooting, even if you watched the last episode, I wasn't drinking that much. I had shots of... Not the right one. Grenjo. Not Grenjo, man. Yeah, it doesn't matter. So I got there, bro. When I'm testing it, and the guy that's opening his bands, a friend of mine, he's DJ Tira's road manager and DJ for DJ Tira. Bands, you know, from the Eastern Cape, not music, so it's family. Okay. 35:35 When they test that thing, I'm like, nah, man, this thing is not the one, dog. 35:39 So everybody else in your circle is saying this thing is... All the two, the one that is here. 35:42 It's me, it's me, it's Benzo. The Luanga was... I had a chat with the Luanga for a long time and then he moved, then he was sitting there, he was doing his cooking. But the one that was here... 35:53 You pour a glass. 35:55 Tessette was like, nah, this one is not Hennessy, dog. That one was not Hennessy, dog. I don't care what happens, dog. That one was not Hennessy. I didn't drink Hennessy. I paid for something else that was not Hennessy. But it's fine. Cool. We're having fun. The party's lit, bro. You cannot fold the party for the setup or anything. The party's lit, dog. It's a dope concept. And then when I'm leaving now, I'm like, all right, let me bounce. So I'm going out. And then I... 36:24 Just when I was about to go out, there's a car parked in front of me. Mm-hmm. Right? So... DX what? I don't know. 36:32 I just want to DX something. I've been looking for the Instagram page. I just want to see it. 36:38 Yeah, carry on. 36:40 Give him... I'll explain it to him. It's fine. No, but I wanted to see something. 36:43 I want to see the lineup who's playing there. 36:46 Go to my police's page. 36:47 Yeah. I can't. I'm blocked. 36:49 Okay, I'll find it. Carry on. I'll find it for him. I'll find it for him. So... 36:54 So I come out of the car and I'm talking on my phone. I'm going to tell that guy, my nigga, can you just move so I can bounce? Right? 37:04 And I'm talking on the phone. Just like when I'm done talking on the phone, I'm going to the car, putting the phone in the pocket, zip. 37:12 Hold on. The 17. Yeah. It's gone. It's gone. Ah! 37:19 That's the punchline of the story. 37:22 It's gone. Cool. But it's not the smashing grab that shocked me the most. You know what shocked me the most? It's the fact that it's the security. It's just looking, bro. 37:37 Right? It's just looking. That guy went past security just like that, the one in the gate. It just went past him like that. And I'm trying to chase. And now they're in the car. And I'm like, hold on. 37:47 Let me park the car again. I park the car. I go back because clearly the security doesn't give a fuck. Right? I go back inside. I find the owner. I'm like, yo, bro, do you have CCTV footage? I just want to see the place of the car that took my phone. Because I know people that can take the car right now. It's like, I don't have time for that thing. Basically telling me he doesn't give a fuck. 38:13 what happens in his venue. So basically he was telling me that whatever happens in that venue to you as a customer, I wasn't even dare to drink riders. Whatever happens in that venue as a customer, it's at your own risk. So they're basically telling us we are coming here at our own risk. GX Midrand. 38:29 You get what I'm saying? Bro, I went to him twice. I'm like, I just want to see CCTV footage. I've got people that can track the car now. 38:37 And he didn't give a fuck. He just looked at me like we are fine, you know? Next time, go to Okio. He just looked at me like we are fine. So it got me worried, bro. Because as I come back and I'm trying to find ways to think, I'm not going to say we're a celebrity. The celebrity I was talking to there, he said, you know, he also lost his one day. 38:56 You get what I'm saying? And they didn't give a fuck. 38:59 They just don't care. And I'm like to myself, okay, this is mid-rent, right? I tracked the phone. When I tracked the phone, it was in Tembisa. I see Sima, yeah. 39:10 Sima, yeah, I see you on the desk. 39:11 Close by. Yeah, carry on. So it was in Tembisa. So I'm like, okay, oh... 39:17 Nathana, can I please get the phone right now? Sorry, my bad. I'm like, niggas who come commit crime here, right? I'm from Tembisa, most of them, in Kempton Park. And our woman get killed in Kempton Park and kidnapped, I don't know from where, but it seems like that's the closest spot. And if the owner doesn't give a fuck about that, what does it mean for our ladies there, bro? If a man can get robbed and he just be like, ah, who was born? What about what stuff that happens to girls there, bro? Do you care, bro? 39:44 Bro, you own establishment, bro. You need to have cameras. You need to care about your customers. 39:50 Isn't it called customer care? Nigga didn't give a fuck. He just looked at me like, I'm a podcasting tramp. And I literally just wanted footage so I can get the plates of the car. And then I get people to track. Immediately, I was with people capable of tracking cars. 40:04 Wait, what's that place where that Zimbabwean guy threatened that woman? 40:07 Is he a foreigner? I don't think he's a foreigner. He's a vendor, that one. 40:10 You sure? 40:11 I think he's a vendor. He's one of us. I think he's a vendor. 40:15 Vendors are not one of us. 40:17 Yeah, vendors are one of us. I think it's vendors. I'm Tonga, dog. And if it is vendor, I'm disappointed, bro. Vendors are vendors. This is the first, first, first, first vendor man to be rude to me in my life, dog. 40:27 Okay, but is it now, are we saying it's Pori's responsibility? It's not Pori's responsibility. Wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not about the phone stuff. Right. But who are you there with? The fake alcohol that you're saying they sold you. Yeah. Is it part of Pori's responsibility? 40:40 No, it's not Pori's. I don't know. It's Gabza's responsibility. He's the ambassador of Hennessy. No, 40:45 How is that Cabs' problem? 40:47 He's an ambassador. Fair, fair, fair. He's an ambassador. He should be reporting. 40:53 No, man, you don't get what he's saying. He's just trolling, man. No, I'm not trolling. It's fact. No, man. Cabs should be saying your body don't play there. They sell fake Hennessy. 41:00 I got a call from the HQ at Hennessy. That place doesn't sell our official product, so don't play there. 41:06 Bro, you know if you want to drink the right Hennessy, bro, go to Piano Hub. Ah, Drew. Obviously. Ah, Drew. It comes straight from the source. You know what I'm saying, Spiso? As a host of a place, if that place sells fake alcohol, do you somewhat take some of the responsibility if somebody gets sick the following day or is admitted to the hospital or whatever? 41:27 Now it's the small piece. 41:28 Because you went there because of my body. Yeah, me, I went there because of bone. They sold you fake alcohol. 41:33 Imagine. 41:35 Imagine. That does not fall on him. 41:38 Now that you've said it, is he not like supposed to now start checking if the alcohol is original? Does he know? That's the thing. Maybe he's going to be hearing for the first time. No, no, but nigger, this is your brother. You should have called him and told him that you... Call with what phone? Well, now you are promoting these things, these Sundays of yours. Call with what phone? Oh, yeah. So you haven't seen him since? I haven't seen him since. I would call him, but I don't think he'll pick up. I know he won't pick up. 42:01 Do you have his number off by heart? Nah, I don't. Nah, I have his number. 42:05 So you see what I'm saying? It's just like, ah, bro, I went there to support a brewer that is doing amazing stuff. Number one is fake alcohol. I keep quiet. And if I didn't lose my phone, I wasn't going to be bored. 42:15 And this one happening tonight. Well, it happened two days ago. So what do you say about my soul rocking him? Enough about my soul, comrades. Sfiso? Yeah, but you're sundowns, right? Yeah, too much. So you're not part of this one? I'm not on it? 42:26 Baga, baga. I'm the Chiefs, man. So it's between me and you. 31st of October, Saturday. So the Derby is coming up, man. And this is sponsored by our partners, Hollywood Beds. A bid of 20 rand or more on the Derby gets you into the halakasha. Hollywood Beds monthly soccer jackpot. The jackpot pool grows up to 1 million rands. Paid out in cash at the end of the month. Or as soon as it hits 1 million, monotana. 42:55 And it's not just a derby. The bets include the PSL, the Premier League, Champions League, and other qualifying leagues count too. Every month through to November. Sign up link is in the description. Existing customers, rather, just log in. New customers who sign up through the link in the description below, they get 50 free spends and 25 rent sign up bonus. T's and C's apply. This is for 18 and over. And you know that winners know when to stop. 43:25 Let's get it. 43:26 So, yeah, that's all I wanted to say, bro. 43:28 So, hold on. What do you think about that, my soul thing? About tulipi. Oh, yo, yo, yo. See, so there's a file there. Thank you, Mnodan. Tulipi. 43:37 So, now, I think you were talking about Cubs, right? Yeah. 43:41 So, my soul said he used to speak to Cubs, well, speak to my opponent's friend. Yeah. He said my opponent's friend. Yeah. And he wanted him to come play at his gigs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then after the tulipi thing... That the niggas stopped responding. 43:54 Yeah. 43:55 And my soul said that he thinks Pori told that party that... Yeah. Maybe he spoke to Tuli K. Look. Pori's other Tuli. 44:02 Yeah. 44:13 Come on, who's Bore's friend that he can tell that don't go? Maybe it's Youngstown or Dali Wong or somebody else. That can tell who. Who told who not to go? My soul is a legend that Bore told whatever artist to not go perform. 44:25 That's what he sneezed. 44:26 At his farm. Yeah. 44:27 No, but if he had a beef with Bore, Ah, Paul is reading a book there, 48 Powers of Law, bro. 48 Laws of Power. Yeah? So it's there. Is it 48 Hours of Power? 48 Laws. I thought you were reading it. 48 Laws. If you're right, 48 Laws of Power. 48 Laws of Power. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paul is reading it, so that clause is there, bro. He's going to read it to you. 44:48 Yeah, let other people work and take the credit. So I'm sure he'll take credit of this one. Ah, nonsense. Bro, man, it's a blessing and a curse being a… So yeah, can I just close my past dog? 44:58 Like what I wanted to say is, bro, so since I had another celebrity also saying lost his phone day, was snatched, right? His phone was snatched day. How safe is it for us? Because we like supporting the venue. And you as the owner, you don't give a fuck. 45:12 I'll tell you something though. 45:14 Mini Jamini would have never accepted that. 45:17 So next time, go to clubs where Mini would go. 45:20 Which is? Leave club. Isn't ya? Ha! 45:23 Who owns it? Who owns it? I don't know. Hey, man. I was saying it's a blessing and a cause being a podcaster, bro. And influence at the same time, bro. I was part of a campaign. 45:43 Yeah, that's been running for some time. Let's congratulate him. Come on. You get jobs apart from the best of Botworld? Yeah, I get jobs apart from the best of Botworld. Sure. And funny enough, it's an alcohol brand. How? Yeah, it's crazy. What is it? I can't say it, man. I don't have to say it. Come on. So I sent me stock, did videos, did whatever, posted, posted, posted. Everything went well, right? 46:07 And then they took... Send you stock. Who sends you stock? And then they took one of my videos, right? And they posted on their own page, right? On their own. Because I posted on Instagram. So they took it and posted it on their own TikTok, right? And you know, when Takis did hit, the comments, people went berserk, you know, which is wrong. People in the comments were like, why is Tachi promoting alcohol? Why is he promoting alcohol? Blah, blah, blah. You're over 25. Last week, they sent me a message. The brand? Yeah. Because of the comments? Well, the agency. 46:37 I don't think it's because, but I think it's part of it. And they're like, yo. 46:40 You must be sure. 46:41 Listen. And they're like, yo. Don't say that. Don't blame Nivea. Can I fucking finish? Okay. Please, monotana? 46:46 I'm hearing you. 46:47 Yeah. Okay. 46:49 They're like to me, yo, may you kindly remove all of the content. 46:55 May you kindly remove all of the content that you've already posted with this brand, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? I was like, okay, I'll take it down. I don't have a problem with taking it down, but just please tell me what the problem is so that I don't encounter this in future. Right? Right? Here's what they said. Here's how they counted. They were like following a discussion with the client. There are concerns around some recent podcast content and the potential for the brand to become associated with the ongoing public disagreements. 47:29 As the brand is mindful of its public image and existing partnerships, they've requested that we remove any content associated with the brand to avoid any potential negative PR or conflict. 47:42 Not It must have been a beer brand. Ah, bro. It must have been a beer brand. 47:45 Taking down, taking down. I understand you not want to work with you again, but taking it. No, it wasn't about that. Hold on, hold on, but taking it down is a little bit extreme, bro. No, it was a Nami Pia Nyayenza. It's extreme, bro. 47:57 Like, why must you even take down, bro? They're like, you're promoting Chila's Laga. Nami Pia Nyayenza la. And Nienzela la Mzantimin. 48:05 Understand what I'm saying? That's what it is. Dog, it's the dirty business. It's the beer mafia. 48:09 Anything associated with the podcast. Oh, I think you've got to make smoke. No, but that's the thing. It's got nothing to do with me. It is. It's got everything to do with you. As long as you're next to Mac, you smell like his shit. I understand. But also, in the past, since we've started Piano Pulse even, I've never said anything that's out of character. Anything that targets the community. I know. I know. I'm clean as a fucking whistle, bro. That's it. I'm super clean. We just talk our shit here. And we talk about individuals. The music, what they do, their lives, that's it. 48:42 And can you see? We don't touch issues that are like sensitive in the country. Can you see how big the job you do is? This was an ongoing thing. I've been with these people for like four months now. 48:53 Imagine. They even started a family emergency for you. 48:55 They've been paying me like this. And we were like growing together. It was so nice. So when this happened, it hit me. They wanted Spitsa and Shamitou to be here. So, I'm like, bro, it's hard for us podcasters. 49:07 No. 49:08 Not all podcasters. 49:09 But look at, look at... Avon Pop Pops are busy podcasting. No, but they wouldn't. They've got no problems. Ask a Man is now a TV show. Nothing else, bro. On SABC3. With a host that's a convicted sex offender, dog. Convicted. Convicted. You understand what I'm saying? Can't deal. 49:28 Done deal. Unless you are with the people that are compromised, right? You will be compromised for being uncompromising. If you're uncancellable, you need to show it. Sure. 49:41 Even alcohol said no. 49:42 And here's the thing, bro. Our number, my social media numbers are good. See, my social media numbers have been good for years. But we barely bag shit, bro. 49:56 We barely bag shit. Everybody that's on the outside is bagging all these things. They're doing small petty shit. It's because they're living for the fame and you're killing the game. 50:03 Do you understand, bro? It's hard. 50:05 You're exposing the scam, dog. It's sad that the people that are making those decisions are the biggest fans of our shows, bro. No, they are black like me. 50:17 They are black like you and me. The people that are doing those things are black. It's the black people in those companies. Because I'm telling you, white people don't give a fuck about our controversy. Let's be honest. 50:28 What show, what episode has ever targeted white people on this entire network? There's nothing that white people could be upset about. 50:35 Nothing from this channel. No, literally nothing. What could they be upset about? And the white people are the ones that own the companies. And then you've got these damn blacks that work for these companies, right, that are trying to undercut us at every single turn. 50:47 But why undercut me, bro? Because you're black like them. They can do it to you. They'll never do it to a white person, dog. I attended. Content was clean. They were happy. And you're the cleanest with the content, dog. Everything was good, bro. You're on the biggest music show in the fucking country. 51:02 You are Mini Damini. I didn't want to fight you, girl. Just tell me why. 51:05 You are Pearl Tusi. But what podcast content went viral that was crazy of recent times? You are Lutlav. Ah, bruh. That really hurt me. You are Andile Ngube. 51:18 Just think about that. You are DJ Fresh, man. Without a radio show on Bob TV. That's why when we come by and we say we have brands, buy our DJs, please support us, pass us. Because you can see what's happening to us. We are not wanted by the brand. That's it. So when we say we have ERR, please go shop. You have to eat shop. Come on. Because we are giving you raw authentic shit on here, bro. 51:38 I can't say that. 51:42 It's not a typical... Do you understand what I'm saying, bro? We give them raw, authentic stuff. But you have to buy it. And now we can't stop because brands are saying, hey, we don't want you. We have to carry them because we love this shit. We live for this. That's why we're starting our own little brands for you guys to support. No, it's right. Because if you don't, we will starve. That's why I said... 52:00 They'll get Siswempofu Welsh to promote them. That's what you want, right? If you're going to give SMWX all the podcasting awards when they're not doing the numbers that we're doing. 52:13 Dog, we don't have the Madanga Commission. 52:32 on stream you're not doing any work dog you're plugging into a feed and that's how you're getting those numbers dog let's let's not fucking talk about like how niggas are gaming the system and then you're collecting awards for nonsense let's be honest guys the same reason i was like fuck this whole entire sasma nomination is because i felt like yo we hadn't had skin in the game as a show we didn't even like each other we didn't even get along Do you understand what I'm saying? We didn't even know if the show would last for three months. We built this shit brick by brick. We built our audience. We built their tenacity. 53:03 We built their grit. Now they know what they expect. Doesn't matter if Speedster and Shamiso can come here and tell us for five hours how we should do the show better. They'll tell them where the fuck to get off. 53:12 And they did. 53:14 He's laughing. He saw the comments. 53:17 No, no, no. That's the thing. 53:20 So the thing is this, is that our industry has become so dirty. And the people want realness. That's what podcasting is about. They want realness. They don't want fake, polished shit, dog. They want realness. And we are unable to deliver the realness if we're chasing the bag. So we're sacrificing the bag. We're making a big sacrifice, dog. Don't you think Esfeso would rather be signing artists in silence? He can't even sign artists right now. 53:45 We are. 53:46 People are signing his artist. In front of him. In front of me. He can't even say anything about it. 53:50 That's why now I just want to make myself an artist. Turn myself into an artist. I'll never steal from myself. I'll never rob myself. I'll never be ungrateful to ask to myself. I'm dropping my first single now with Boosh. I mean with Massey and T-Man. I'm DJing. Now I want bookings. Now, you know... Please, book me. Guys, now book me. Can you? 54:10 Now I want to play. I'm playing. It got me thinking, is this probably the same problem that probably Monaka encountered, right? Yeah, and she probably like... But she never told us. 54:20 No, but she doesn't have a backbone. She's spineless. She's not loyal. That's the thing about loyalty. It proves itself. And that's why you will downgrade the things that you're doing. You're downgrading the things that you're doing, dog. You're downgrading the things that you're doing. 54:33 Look, Apple Music got Nandi Madita to come and do her... No, her radio show. It's an Apple radio show. The radio show. They're syndicating it. 54:43 Look, she's great. 54:45 But look at her on her podcast, on her free platform. 54:49 You can see that this woman can't be bought. 54:51 She says what she needs to say. She's even able to confront Julius. 54:56 Nilani Amosha. 54:59 news, SABC... 55:00 But JJ Tamale does it well, bro. He confronts him. JJ does it. 55:03 Give him some credit. When does Julius come and account to mothers... 55:08 Oh, okay. I haven't watched the show. On behalf. I haven't watched it yet. 55:11 He had to do that. That's McFarlane. That guy's half-white, bro. What do you mean? 55:16 That guy's a star on the Mnet, dog. You think McFarlane is one of us? McFarlane is like an alum daughter, dog. That's white privilege, motherfucker. Exactly. It is. It's white privilege, dog. Come on, that nigga's white, bro. He don't go to our schools, dog. Listen to his English. He's trying to be different than ours, bro. I don't speak English, but when he speaks... Oh, bro, come on, dog. So... 55:37 So we just have to bite the bullet and make the show as big as possible, guys. Make the show as big as possible. There are motherfuckers that are watching this show. Two million motherfuckers can clock in in four days to watch a fucking episode. But we can't get two million motherfuckers to hit the subscribe button. It costs you fucking nothing. It's not a membership. You don't have to pay for that shit. 55:59 You're letting the haters win, dog. 56:02 You're letting the haters win, dog. If you support this platform and this platform enriches your life, you owe us something, dog. You owe us something. Because we're sacrificing a lot, dog. 56:13 You guys send us craziest messages, bro. And we even read your fucking comments. And we reply. 56:19 Do you understand what I'm saying? We read all your comments. We come back to the show. Each and every single one of your comments, doesn't matter how hurtful, no one deletes your comments off the MACG page. None of you. And you guys are disrespectful like that. No one deletes your comments. You understand what I'm saying? Next week you'll see your disrespectful comment is still there. You can comment on it again, you know what I mean? So, like, come on, dog. 56:42 We're not trying to beg for shit. We shouldn't be begging you. You understand? You know what is up. 56:47 You know what we're up against in this entire country, dog. You know the Ramaphosa economy, dog. 56:51 And why should you give them an episode that is, it's like, of not what they're used to? They complain. Hold on. Can't you... 56:58 Podcast and Chill has hit 20 million views per month. We've crossed over the 20 million views per month. And niggas can't afford a full tank. 57:09 Well, we can't. In this economy. Do you understand what I'm saying? How? It's bad. 57:12 The more successful the podcast gets, the less we can afford things. No, guys. I think I made more money when I was off screen, to be honest with you. 57:20 Come on. It can't be like this, guys. It can't be like this, guys. It can't be like this. And then bore my soul, they're going to come here and disrespect us. And stand on us. Because of you. 57:28 No, nonsense. Just shop my parents. Shop here, Arne. Book me, bro. Don't make that mistake. 57:33 I will keep delivering. My first booking is going to Bethlehut. Give back to the community. Yeah, I'll book you. I know, at least. 57:40 This guy paid for a lot of fuel tanks for me. The past couple of months. He supported me. 57:44 I went to TUT and I did a public speaking. That was dope. They were happy to see you there. Now he's extremely hurt. 57:53 Leave it, leave it. That was his alma mater, eh? Oh, yeah. That's what they call it, eh? Oh, yeah. 57:57 That's love, bro. That's love. I was sharing what happened to me this week, something that hurt me, and you're making a joke out of it. That's his pose, dog. You're making a joke out of it. Hold on, be on gizwe, eh? Man, you're full of skulls. 58:11 Hey man, I saw Kim Munada. There's a court order against him. Court orders Sheriff to attach Kim Munada's assets over unpaid debt. You see posting your assets. Posting all your cars. I think this is because he failed to pitch to a gig and he didn't want a refund. But now we know what guy is right. 58:26 Don't you want me to hear about live read before the dance? We'll come to the live read. 58:32 He's got the fridge. That's got the mirror doors. You know the fridge that you can see yourself in the mirror? You can see yourself. You can see that you're getting... You've been visiting the fridge too many years. 58:42 So what is it about? So you didn't pitch for a gig, right? You didn't pitch for a gig. And you didn't want to refund the promoter. And I think the promoter went to court and then they attached some of his assets. 58:51 And got a writ of execution. Yeah. 58:53 So they're going to attach some of his assets. But I think he'll pay it now. 58:55 He should pay it now. King Monada's good. Well, no, I don't think they can attach his personal assets because the booking was done under the company. 59:04 So the company is liable. Whichever company he used... Come on, we know King Monada is not doing his gigs under his personal bank account. Otherwise, yo... 59:12 He would have been and had risk of execution from another agency with four letters. Oh, yeah. You understand? Exactly. 59:19 But King Monada should be good, bro. It's a bro I know him personally. He just missed another booking, I think, in Pretoria Zoo. 59:26 There was a show. I don't think he pitched. The audience was crazy. The audience was like, they were like throwing cans and the promoter came out and said... Now you're responsible for shit like that. 59:36 The promoter can sue you. If the place gets damaged because you, the artist that was booked, did not show up... 59:43 Everything that happened there is your responsibility. Damn it. Of course, it is your responsibility. Damn it. If I booked you and you didn't show up because people... Guys, people... Maybe you should go perform for my soul's work. Listen, people actually do buy tickets to see a set of ATC. Of course. Just because it's not your favourite... They won't damage that equipment. Just because you don't know how much... 60:02 you have in a particular area doesn't mean you don't have friends there you just don't know how much people buy tickets because of you and they're sacrificing their little money to go to that venue because they think please KB will be there they're thinking Team Man Express will be there and then you are not there Of course, they think this nigger, because they live with this nigger that is a promoter in the same rural area. They know I'm a ratzib, a halal shasha. 60:27 So the more the speakers, the more they think it's a fake booking, but it's not. That's why I think if it's... 60:32 But don't you have insurance for that? 60:35 Any damages? Yes. If the crowd gets around, you should have insurance. 60:38 Any event should have insurance. Okay. You need that. You need that. You need that. 60:42 The illegal immigrants around the country, they've got insurance. When 65 Zimbabweans die. 60:51 You know South Africans are the ones that are transporting these Somalians into the country? Which ones? These South Africans. Into the country. 60:59 Into the country. South Africans into the country. Let me tell you. Yes. Somalians. Gift of the givers. Pakistanis and shit. They fucking load them in their private cars at the fucking border. 61:08 Mm. 61:08 And their cars in the boot. It's like a subtle service. Mm. 61:14 It's a whole It's an organization From Nimbabwe down into Gaudi Of Somalians laying in fucking vans In private cars and shuttles and shit like that Imagine Now that he's fucking seeking asylum It's human trafficking dog That's human trafficking And we are doing it. Are you done? 61:35 I lost my train of thought. 61:37 You were saying... 61:41 The fans get upset, they break shit, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because remember, the person who booked you lives in this community. It's someone they know. 61:49 You understand what I'm saying? Someone they hate on. Of course, but they like to hate. You understand what I'm saying? 61:55 Because in that community, probably this is the only place he has to work on. Of course. And then this guy that we know is in Chechen, we grew up with him. And now he's going to bring a mahu. So I'm told a mahu. Hey, this is a bonnet. I knew it. Then they're going to start moving. Or they'll promote, or they'll fuck up the place. So whose responsibility is that? Because I have a booking confirmed. So my advice to promoters that are outside Johannesburg, right? The way the artists need to live mid-range to come to you because all of these guys, let's be honest, 95% of artists live in mid-range. 62:27 And Pretoria. Really? 95% in mid-range. Pretoria is just half of them. But for the Centurion, once the Centurion mid-range, all the artists are there. Once they make it, they want to go stay in mid-range. All of them. 62:38 Damn. They want to be far from my soul. 62:41 For them to leave Midland to go to Libua home, sometimes that's awful because my triple store. You understand what I'm saying? And then, if it's far from town, bro, just force the artist, bro, to do a booking. I mean, to do a video. Some artists have extra money for a video. Confirmation video. Confirmation video. Imagine. 63:02 You can't charge me 100,000 and still explain another 10,000 for confirmation video. But okay, hold on. Any artist that charges for confirmation video is a whack artist. Tell me if they charge you for confirmation video, I'll deal with them. 63:16 Can I finish? Can I finish, guys? Can I finish? So this is how you look at it, bro. This is how you look at it. You can save the venue with that video. You can save yourself as a promoter with that video. You get what I'm saying? So it's expensive if the artist comes, but if the artist don't show up, even in court, There's nothing else to say, bro. You don't need to take out the receipt. Here is it. There used to be a doom inside the studio. 63:40 We need a doom here. I get what you say. It's summertime right now. 63:42 It's expensive in the beginning when there's no return job. But when there's a return job coming, that video can get you a lot of money back. A lot of money back. You can sue the artist with that video. Because now he can't say, no, I didn't see the booking or I didn't see the proof of payment. 63:56 So the promoters are sending it as a trap. To trap. You get what I'm saying. Oh, not really a trap. You understand. But it's not really a trap. No, it's a trap. 64:05 No, it's not a trap. We do it like in rural areas to make, to get a community. Yeah, I can't. But people don't believe. I can't, but you. 64:12 In rural areas. They don't believe when they see a lineup. But when they see a scam on WhatsApp stories, they put all their money in it. 64:18 Right, so this is the business at the end of the day time. It's the truth, dog. Our grandmother's a big scam. This is a business that involves money, right? And any business that involves money, you need to be careful in what you do with it if you're going to pay someone. And liability, dog. So if you have that video, somebody starts like 2K for that confirmation video. I mean, sometimes just buy it because apart from that, you benefit when that video circulates in your community or in your area or in your page as a venue. 64:46 friends will see, oh, okay, she's coming or he's coming. 64:48 And also it gives the credibility. 64:50 Yes, immediately. 64:52 Immediately to you. Even after the artist is gone, people will still come to your venue because you once brought us. 64:57 You understand? Immediately. So you're now a goat. If the artist doesn't come, it's not you. The crowd won't even look at you like that. It's an artist. 65:05 You're born in jazz. 65:07 Do you understand what I'm saying? So please, if you're a promoter and you're far away from Joburg, just pay this booking confirmation videos if you can. 65:16 But I'm saying, I want you to talk to your friend Munada about him missing gigs. Because I told you last month he missed another one at Pretoria Zoo and people were throwing cans. He's your friend, right? At Pretoria Zoo? Yeah. They're throwing cans? Yeah. I want you to tell him. At the zoo? Yeah. 65:31 Ah, no, you can't do that, dog. There's like a venue area there. 65:33 Dog, you can't do that, dog. It was Lukompo fun day. So I want you to talk to him as his friend, Gwen. And yet you go to him and you go to the same San Gomas there together. 65:42 Oh, do I go to the Samsung woman with him? You told me that he's on the train. Who told you? No, you know who told me? At the garage when I was coming back. 65:48 Ah, Spiso. 65:49 Ah, Spiso's always here. Grand Scope. 65:52 Grand Scope engine, yes. Grand Scope engine. I don't know. You see those guys that sell that stuff to wash your car? I don't know, my man. 65:58 Don't you even dare you. Why are you talking shit? 66:00 Ah! 66:02 I heard it at the garage from Transcorp. It's from Transcorp. When I was coming back from Lee's place, they're like, yo, what is Spiso doing up here in Limpopo all the time? And in Limpopo, apparently the farms are giving away oranges. They're dumping oranges. So if you're in Limpopo, go to an orange farm, pick yourself up some oranges for free, mahala, you know, because they want us to import the oranges from Spain. 66:24 And then they want to sell the A-grade oranges. And they want to increase the price. So they dump it into the market. Imagine. Disgusting business. Commercial farmers. 66:33 You don't want to talk to Monada? You good? No, I talk to him about that. About the bouquet. Hold on. Does Dania really live in a triple story? 66:42 Ndu. Ndu. 66:43 Ndu. Ndu. Ndu. Ndu. Brown lives in a triple story. Oh, my bad. My bad. Oh, okay. Okay. My bad. 66:48 Man, I saw GTA. It's coming out of GTA 6. You're a gamer. 66:53 I used to play GTA when it was original. The original GTA. 66:56 Ah, GTA 6 is coming out. I used to play GTA San Andreas. I used to play GTA Vice City. That's PlayStation 2 though. 67:02 That's like 2000 something. I quit playing PlayStation when I was a kid. Yeah. I quit. 67:08 I lost in Tekken. I think Tekken 4. 67:11 Oh yeah? 67:12 I lost in Tekken 4 and it wasn't my game. It was my little brother's game. So I popped it out the PlayStation and I threw it at the wall. And my brother walked in as I did that. And I was like, okay, I'm not playing PlayStation anymore. You can keep my PlayStation. I'm out of gaming. I can't control my anger. 67:27 That's it. Yeah, man. So they're going to feature our genres. They're going to feature our genres. Which one? They're going to feature Three Step and they're going to feature Amapya. What's it? On what radio station? GTA 6. I'm looking for it now, actually. 67:40 Why don't they just give us a South African radio station on GTA? No. Because we've got enough South African players. Dog, it's not like they've got players in Nigeria, dog. Who in Nigeria has got electricity to play PlayStation? The station is called Afro Bank FM. That's the thing. Afro Bank FM. Yes, they're going to include. But they're acting as if it's going to be Afro music, dog. 67:57 No, actually, it's got, turn up the Beidou with Bonaboy and Pamsi. Afro Bank FM's dynamic duo, curating the best African music from the 20th century classics and undiscovered gems to contemporary sounds like I'm a piano, three-step and more. 68:14 That's my thing, is that Nigerians love getting to the... 68:18 pitch first with nothing to sell except South Africans. That's it. They get you the pitch first. They go and pitch. They say, yo, let's put African music on GTA. We'll put on some nice African music. What hot Nigerian music has come out in the past three years? 68:31 From the 20th century. 68:33 When was the last time a Nigerian artist had a hit? 68:36 Ashak. 68:37 No. 68:38 It was Lo-J. What was it? La-oh. La-oh. How long ago is that? So what do you say? 68:47 So who should have put on this radio station? Who? 68:51 Guess at a South African radio station, dog. 68:54 Get a South African radio station for South African music because South Africa's got a community that actually buys games, that actually subscribes to these things. Nigeria doesn't even have 300,000 Netflix subscribers, dog. 69:07 And they've got the cheapest Netflix. Their Netflix is cheaper than here in South Africa, dog. You pay more for Netflix in South Africa than you do there. They even have cheaper data than here. Even their MTN data is cheaper than MTN over here. 69:20 I'm just happy that we featured it. Especially I'm a piano. 69:23 Featured for what, dog? I'm just happy that we featured, man. Featured because we're the godliest. They're like GTA 6. They have to feature us. 69:27 Without us, they've got nothing. They'd be playing Angelique Kijo without us, dog. 69:33 That's something, monotona. Come on, look at her. 69:34 Aren't we clapping for it? 69:36 I'm a piano that's going to be featured in GTA 6. I don't give a fuck about that shit. Are you going to clap with me? I'm not a gamer, but I'll clap with you. 69:42 Okay. 69:44 Let's clap. Let's clap. We'll have some local music to play. At least. 69:50 Oh, moving on, comrades, man. 69:54 This is a big one. 69:56 So I heard Luant Lugulu is in hospital. What type of hospital? I don't know. Hospital, hospital. I think it should be private. It should be private. 70:06 It should be private. It should be private. 70:08 It should afford. I know what type is talking about. I get it. 70:12 He always hits on going to public. He's like, artists must never go to public. 70:17 No, no, no. By type, I thought you meant either Vesco Peace or like the other ones. 70:23 Vesco Peace is public. 70:25 but you know that type but there's a private VSCO piece you understand what I'm saying yes yes do you know about the story my feet also I heard the story she's laughing at me bro no but you must closer to the story they're like your people I have my people you know when it comes to Pretoria and the kids it's me you just released an album it's successful it's doing well it's still in the top 10 on Spotify with my who right yeah the single is also doing well on radio distance name of the single 70:51 Distance. Distance. 70:52 Yeah. 70:53 Ah, man, I don't... Oh, did you want to speak? I thought Afezegi la mapupowak. 71:00 Now that she's got a feature with Feza. 71:01 Zulu Queens. Zulu Queens, dog. 71:03 Yeah, that album did well, bro. It's doing well. Forget did well, it's doing well. 71:08 Tell me the GTA thing that you were talking about... 71:12 So, did you say you'll be listening to... Because I heard you saying you'll be listening to... You'll be playing and then Aqabza will be playing. But do you realize that there is a list, right? Of? That's already pre-picked. Artists? Yes. There's a playlist? Yes. There's a playlist. There's a list of artists. And then I think from SA, there's about two. Who's them? If I'm not mistaken. I think DJ Lag on someone else. 71:38 There's about two there. Oh, it's not just... No, it's not Amma Piano as a whole. 71:43 But DJ Leg is not Amma Piano. 71:45 No. Yeah, I don't. I'm just saying it's from SA Music. There is... Who? 71:50 Shakespeare. 71:52 Yeah. Shaisana. 71:56 Yes. So it's not just a list of Amapiano songs that we'll play. Nigerians. Yeah. 72:03 So no one's going to be listening to that shit. So we're celebrating like two, we're clapping for two songs. Yeah, I think that's okay. 72:10 So let's get back to what we're saying. 72:12 Thank you. But is it not because they also need to pay to use these songs? Yes. It's sync deals, right? It's like a sync deal. Yeah, now I know. It's a publishing deal. 72:26 Well, both. Yeah, both. 72:28 But you're saying, I don't know, man, what kind of hospital she had, but she should afford the hospital. What's wrong with that? 72:39 I don't know, man. I don't know. I never got to ask Leroy what's going on. But there are rumors in the streets, which is allegedly, I'm going to say again, allegedly. What are the nurses saying? This is alleged. 72:50 No, nurses gossip, dog. Yeah. How about nurse? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. 72:58 The nurses said, hey, Senzomiya is here, he's dead. It can be a private hospital, but the people that work still come to a cast. Back to politics. 73:08 Some of them are still our neighbors. So it could be that they're suspecting, it's alleged that she went into depression. 73:17 Oh. 73:18 Yeah. It's alleged. She went into depression. Is that the right thing? Yeah, it is. Yeah. Right? But she's not the only one that works with Leroy that allegedly went to depression as well. So there's someone else also alleged that also went into depression, which is Yano Lyrics. Yano Boy. Oh. 73:34 And Big Zulu didn't eat with us when we were eating there. Where? At the Zulu Queen's lunch. When we were eating the catering. 73:42 Big Zulu was there in the venue. I saw him in the chairs. Maybe he wasn't hungry. Oh, okay. Why wouldn't he eat the catering? Now we must eat the food. What if he poisoned the food? I didn't eat there. 73:54 But it's also alleged that they had some issues there with Big Zulu. It's alleged. Who had Big Zulu? Leroy. 73:59 Leroy, yeah. 74:01 They weren't on speaking terms, apparently. Yeah, apparently. It's alleged. Guys, I don't have facts. All I'm saying is that it's what I've heard. 74:09 It's what people are saying in the streets. They didn't come and tell me. They're saying it in the streets. So that's the reason why I'm using the word allegedly. 74:17 I get you said Leroy's his friend. 74:19 Leroy's a good guy. Yeah, that guy's the greatest guy ever. You spoke about your own lyrics, right? I know that Leroy brought a percentage into your own lyrics. I don't know if it's 20 or 30. Allegedly. Somewhere there. So now, the Yano boy, his name is Yano, right? You said he also went into depression. Nice boy, yeah, good boy. He went into depression because what did Leroy do? 74:36 I don't know, man. I saw some WhatsApp stories that the boy's writing lately and I'm like, what's going on with this kid, man? Did he block me? I have his number. One day he posted, yo, let me see if my 30 rents. 74:47 Let me see if I can spend... So he's the one that bought that award from us. 74:52 Who? Leroy. 74:54 Maybe, allegedly. 74:55 Maybe. So, those are the things that I'm hearing in the streets. Or maybe you didn't tell... No, no, but... That he bought the award. 75:03 And now, when the money was short, you couldn't say, yo, I bought the award. 75:07 No, but why would the boy go into depression? Because... 75:11 The only thing that can take a man into depression is when he's rocked in his business. That's the only time I would go into depression. No, but no. And he'll rock me. Okay. Like, you come into my business? Yeah. And then you rock me in my business? 75:22 In your pockets. Oh, I mean... And he's still a kid, bro. I beg to differ, you know, because the annual lyrics has, like, it's a whole team. They've got an accounting department. They've got a marketing. They've got... So money goes in via people before it goes to the owners. Who are the directors? I... 75:38 You want to tell me that the videographer has access to the account? No, no, I'm saying there's accountants there. 75:44 In yellow lyrics, I think so. Who's accountant? Okay, hold on. Leroy's accountant? 75:48 Like, I want to ask him this. No. That's a kid, bro. Do you think that kid wakes up in the morning and what about accountants, bro? There's only one person who can deal with accountants there. 75:58 I don't, but these are very serious allegations. 76:00 No, I'm saying, do you think? I didn't say. But you know what I'm saying? 76:05 And his business is about working for Zulus. You don't want those Zulus in case they didn't start talking about him rocking their kids. You know what I mean? Rocking their kids' money. That'll be very dangerous for him. 76:16 Is that what I said? No. You said it's allegations. I said the only reason why I as a man would go into depression is when I get into the business with you and I trust you and then you rock me and then the disappointment, the depression is not because I was rocked. It's who rocked me. because I look up to you a lot. That's the only time I would go into depression. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying the piano lyrics is being rocked or what. It's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying the things... But what about a woman now? And at some point, that boy went home. 76:47 That boy went home. He has a small percentage in that business. He has like 30. That boy has 70%. 76:53 30% is a lot. 76:54 I understand, but come on. 76:55 It's enough to ensure that you can't move anyhow. 76:58 Ask for it. If I'm Leroy and I have 30% of your business, I'm the smartest motherfucker, you know? You're getting rocked. No, I'm asking. I'm saying you're getting rocked. 77:07 I'm asking. I can drive your business until it's worth nothing and then you sell your 70% for nothing and I buy it. 77:14 That's what having 30% means I don't think you do that to Yano I don't think Well tell us Since you know Leroy I mean out of all the money You wouldn't think that they would do that to them But I mean Here's someone that can tell me what's going on You've had a close relationship with Leroy He was your business partner at some point Do you think this is something you do to Yano To a small boy Last whatsapps to him When we were working together What happened You must remember that I left Rap Life I was like y'all can keep this shit y'all niggas You understand I don't need the money 77:43 Y'all can figure out how you guys balance your accounts. You guys want to steal from each other? You've stolen from me enough. 77:49 You've stolen from me enough? So you're stealing from me? 77:52 Dog. So he's capable? 77:54 Oh, okay. I think we have an answer. Yeah, but you can... I'm Samulo, yes. 77:57 You can give us more. You have... At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. 78:06 At some point. 78:06 At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. At some point. 78:13 At 78:13 I thought you know people there, but I thought you charge staff members there. 78:18 Deny, deny. 78:21 Deny, deny, deny. 78:22 Back to Limpopo. 78:35 Kranzkop. The thing is, Leroy is so chilled, dog. And last time I saw him was at Joelist in session, Spiso. And he looked so chilled and he was like, hey, why are you looking at me like that, young man? I was like, no, man, I just admire you. 78:48 You know, he's got style, he's stylish, work dress, smells good, you know. Let me tell you something. I'm not saying, I don't say... Leroy is capable of what or not. Me, you'll find me with Leroy. I'm chilling. I'm counting my words. I'm counting what I say as to... I don't trust Leroy myself. For me, me, me, me. You took star healer. I can chill with him every year, bro. Like every day of the year, bro. I will never be comfortable around Leroy on some... Yeah, this is my nigger. 79:15 I used to live at his house. No. 79:17 I used to live at his mother's house. 79:18 Under his mother's roof. These niggers were groomed by mafias, dog. No, he wasn't. I wouldn't say that. Is that the center of Nkabi records, right? What's the other one here, Lantrugulu? What's her record label? His dad went to the same school as my dad. Doesn't Lantrugulu have her own thing? Yeah, yeah, she does. She has her own thing. He's in that and Nkabi also. No, here's what I heard he does. What's the big one that he started alone? 79:41 Which one? 79:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Leroy, the record label. 79:43 No, it's DJ's production. 79:45 No, man, DJ's production, but the one with Big Zulu is Nkabi Records, right? Nkabi Records, yes. He's the director, as well. He's got a hand in there, and then Lance Lugulu now started her own thing. He sure has a hand. No, of course he has a hand. So he promises them, like, start your own record label and then he gets a percentage. That's what he does. 80:01 Which is obviously, it's like he's basically giving you, like, your independence. 80:05 No, it's not. He eats twice. Because here's the thing. He eats twice. Because here's the thing. I sign good flavor. Already I'm traveling from good flavor. And then before he gets big-headed, I make him... 80:21 Have his own label. Make his own move before... Make his own move when I want it than when he wants it. Because when he wants it, I won't be able to have shares. Exactly. But that's smart. That's being a businessman. That's being a businessman. There's something wrong with that. So you are in debt of this guy. Until you die, you're going to be working with this nigga. I would never do that. I would never. If Gunflavor comes and says he wants to open a Gunflavor record label or whatever, he must call it something else because Gunflavor is what Clear Records owns. Right? 80:50 That's the only time I child, dog. That's the best way to let someone grow. Oh, you want to sign something? Oh, you want to sign some kids? Hey, go do it. So you feel what I feel and also it's a way for you growing. Go sign your own kids there. It's your own business. As long as you're giving me my albums, we're good. 81:08 So what about the other... You get me. ...Stalliantainment and all those other... What's Stalliantainment? Stallion. Stallion. 81:15 The best producer the Gabby record has. Oh, yeah. I don't know much about that. The only. 81:21 The only. Yeah. Musiconic was the better producer for them. 81:24 Honestly, we can't let piano lyrics, you know, get destroyed. No, no, no. We need to protect piano at all costs. Why not? 81:30 No, no, no. 81:30 That boy's doing too much. 81:31 You must learn the hard way, dog. No, no, no. You can't learn the hard way. You must learn the hard way. Yo, look at me. Look at me. 81:36 I'm a victim of Leroy and I'm still standing. You are what? Exactly. He's a victim of Leroy. 81:45 I'm still standing, nigga. So relax. 81:48 Don't tell me about his little brother. 81:52 These niggas are just, these niggas are just too smart, man. Like, you see the OGs, bro, like the old, the old, the old niggas in the game. Ah, they're so smart, bro. 82:04 Like, we pray for Yano's recovery, man. I want Yano to recover, man, please, man. I want Yano to recover, man. That's depressing, man. Leroy can't be at the center of this group, man. Don't worry. We love piano lyrics, man. It needs to prosper, man. And that page is holding down culture, bro. It's a running shit, you know. The boys been doing well. They built that thing from the ground. You know, we must come from there. The biggest stars. Leroy is doing nothing different from what Katle... What's his name? 82:33 Who? Katle Homalachi is doing. Doing the same thing. 82:38 Chowing brews, selling them down the river. Your own black brothers. 82:42 That's it. 82:44 Yeah. 82:44 I don't know, man, if he's in the center of it, but yeah. I just pity them, man. But moving on, comrades. 82:52 There's a TKZ family saga, Munwatana. 82:56 You like family business, eh? 83:00 I'm just saying. 83:02 I was watching Mr. David's podcast, King Dave Studios. And then who was the guy? Musa. Is it Musa? The guy that went on Idols. 83:09 Yes, yes, yes. 83:10 Yeah, I watched the interview. I enjoyed it, man. Spoke about his past. 83:12 He was the MC at Questa's wedding. 83:13 Yeah, man. I never want to experience what he went through. Like just losing everything and then coming back up again and then losing it again. And hey, I don't want that, bro. I just want to be rather still like this. I don't want to go up and then down. That's why I just... Well, he made it from idols. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And the money. He didn't win the idols. He won idols. The white people's one. Yeah, love. I like his story. His story was quite interesting. And he said he wants to go into radio, like podcasting now. But they've actually offered him a job to be a podcaster. Really? Yeah, apparently they talk for hours and hours on the phone, you know. 83:46 So he has the voice for radio. But Dave said he must try podcasting and stuff. Maybe he will, you know. But he's a good singer, I think. One of his biggest songs came from Robby Malinga, right? Producer, yeah. Yeah, that's when he came back up again and then... fucked up shit again. At UMG, yeah. You fucked up shit. You fucked shit up again, bro. You know, through parties and shit like that. Exactly. But TKZ family, what's happening there? Well, why is that? Oh, why the fuck did you tell Shamiso to ask her mom? Why? When you said, when she was asking about Booga Love, you're like, ask your mother. 84:16 Because the mother's a radio DJ as well. Oh, okay, that's what you mean. She knows about TKZ. 84:20 You're like, ask your mom. I'm sure her mother's in one of the TKZ videos. You're like, ask your mom? I'm sure. I swear that she don't take it long. No, you must remember that. She don't take it long. No, I saw the TikTok. I was like, what the fuck? She's not only met Shamiso now, dog. I've known Shamiso since she was in school. Since she was a little kid. I was like, ask your mom. And then Spisa was like, you don't show them a coffee. No, that's the thing. Spisa's now trying to do it. Like, I'm like, dog, I knew Shamiso before you, dog. Ask your mom. But ask your mom doesn't sound right, dog. Ask your mom. 84:44 But it can be, ask your mom, because she's the same age group. 84:47 She danced to the kids. We never bring mothers into conversations. And you did that one. You don't call her. You don't call her. We don't bring up mothers here. We don't bring up mothers here. My mother brought me up. Not the other way around. So, yeah. 85:16 Man, I don't know, man. For me, the situation is this, is that what responsibility does the core trio of TKZ have to everybody else that they brought onto the bandwagon? You know what I mean? 85:29 And... 85:30 At the same time, I feel like any artist I've ever worked with, right, doesn't matter on which level, producer level, executive level, if they fall on to hard times, it's a bad reflection on me. I cannot afford to have Cuesta kicked out of his house to be broke or whatever. 85:47 It looks bad on me. 85:48 Whether I'm involved or not, doesn't matter what these future prospects are. You know what I mean? If he's unable to provide for his family for any reason whatsoever, I cannot afford that to have that on my conscience. 85:59 And my public reputation would also suffer because of it. You know what I mean? So, TKZ, the core guys, and Loiso as well, because he's a core guy of TKZ because of his brother. 86:10 Loiso, is it Loiso, what's his name? Not Gola, ne? And I guess also Lance McCormack. 86:15 Gola is a comedian. Because he's the producer, Lance McCormack. 86:18 Loiso Bala. 86:20 Yeah, Louisa Bala was an executive at SABC. The guy who could have given you a radio job. 86:24 The guy that was there with his daughter on stage at the Metro. Yes, you understand what I'm saying? That's him. He has a beautiful daughter, man. She was like, you know, and she was scared. She was happy to meet Tyler, though, you know. Yeah, I think he made trick or something like that. 86:37 I see, you're getting smart, eh? You know. You know, that's Melanie Bala's daughter. 86:43 Married to Bala families. Do you know that's Melanie Bala's daughter? And she's smart. Melanie Bala. 86:47 Yeah, you know Melanie Bala. No, no, no. Shit, man. You don't listen to Rage. 86:51 No, that's not Melanie Bala's daughter. That's Zwei, the brother of Loiso. Loiso's daughter. Wait, hold on. Bianca Lachranje's ex. Remember, he used to date Bianca Lachranje and then she was invited to open up. Okay, Melanie's married to which Bala? Hold on. Loiso, Loiso's ex-girl. So which girl are you guys talking about? Relax, relax, I'm giving you a big file. A deep throat file. Let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him Loeso's got his own drama. 87:29 He's got a gay brother who was dating Moshe and they were boxing each other at some point in time. You know what I mean? Moshe Lee future. A palo. A palo. That's what I'm talking about. But anyway, he was dating Bianca Lachrange, who was also on Idols. 87:47 And then she opened up for Asha when Asha came to the country. And then she got offered to go to the US to rock with Asha. And apparently she rocked too much. 87:58 And found himself a good solid woman, home, housekeeper, had beautiful kids, was able to further his studies, focus on his life. You know what I mean? 88:12 Ray is a future wife for Tahi, maybe. You know, when he wants to make power moves. 88:15 No, no, no. 88:16 Come on, just to the kid, kid, kid, kid. Aye, aye, come on, man. We're talking about wife. We're not talking about things that are dirty, guys. Relax, relax, relax, relax, relax. 88:25 I'm still adjusting to my new bed that I bought. It's a silly post-chopedic. 88:29 How many thou? 88:31 Just a couple of thousands. How many? Over 10, though. Oh, nice. I know you. 88:35 Welcome to the club. 88:36 Well done, well done. That might be the last thing expensive. 88:41 So, when you want to sue this nigga, just know he's got a 13,000 rand bed. 88:48 Take the shirt off his back. The brand is here. So, Loiso said, which lyrics on Shibobo did he write? And I'm like, damn, man. 88:56 Who's he saying this to? Weiser. 88:59 Richard Spicer? The TKZ family member. He's not part of the TKZ. There was three of them, right? Yeah. Tukolo Zwei. Okay. The late Tukolo. Okay. It would have been his 50th birthday last week on the 14th of October. 89:10 Okay. 89:11 Yeah. And that's why Kabelo postponed his album release. So that they could properly commemorate Mike Gash's departure. 89:18 Okay. Okay. 89:19 Yeah. 89:20 So anyway, as I was saying about the responsibility of taking care of everyone within your orbit, right? Is that it looks bad on you when niggers are crying and complaining, dog. How? Especially when you are at the top of the machine. Look at Kamelo. After he left TKZ, he started Amache Geche, Blackjack. 89:36 Okay. 89:37 The other Blackjacks. There's another Blackjack that was an international band. 89:41 And they lost their tour photographer, Liam Lynch. R.I.P. to Liam Lynch as well. You know what I mean? I've got a Liam Lynch portrait myself. So Cabello cried man tears, big man tears at Tukulo's house after Tukulo passed away. 90:00 Because he blamed himself for what happened with Tukulo. 90:05 He blamed himself for saying, Tukolo is a grown man, he'll take care of himself. He blamed himself as a brother for not saving his own brother's life. 90:11 How did Tukolo pass away? 90:14 I think he had a seizure or something. 90:15 Okay. But he blamed himself for that? 90:17 For what happened to Tukolo, yes. 90:19 What happened? 90:19 Tukolo was not well. Oh, he was on stuff? You know what I mean? Well, at some point he had a substance abuse problem. 90:24 He had a murder charge. 90:26 No, he spoke about it. 90:28 He was on the white. Yeah, he's not spoken about it. We were not alleging. He was on the white. 90:34 It's not alleging. It's not an allergy. 90:38 He was sniffing. Yeah, he was sniffing. It's not allergies. So, I think that they need to introspect. 90:49 on their legacy and think about the legacy of TKZ family as a whole because there were a lot of contributors to their success and their legacy that they are celebrating right now. You know, it can't be that Kabelo and Zwei are able to continue, right? And yet all the other guys that they brought along as part of their journey are not benefiting from the success. That they contributed to. You know what I mean? Spoo Maloya is not as celebrated, but he was a big part of TKZ being TKZ and having the swag that they did. What was Spoo Maloya? Come on, dog. You don't know him. 91:19 Who's that? 91:19 Dog, you didn't... Okay, never mind. But either way, there's a lot of people. 91:24 Spoo Maloya was the guy who was having a beef with Mzaga Zaga. 91:27 Oh, okay. 91:27 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 91:29 So... And it's so funny. He had a beef with Mzaga Zaga and then he gets interviewed by DJ Spoo in the house. 91:34 DJ Spoo. 91:36 In the artist's corner. Curious. And the beef is squashed. How? How do you know? 91:40 He's got beef with him, Zegazeg. Not Spoo. 91:42 Okay. 91:43 Yeah. 91:43 Well, it's like... Oh, do you know something we don't? 91:47 Yeah? My Buddha. 91:51 Did he tell you something there in the mountains? 91:53 He robbed ass his kids, man. Fucked boo, dog. All right. That's like a shit. This boo's too smart, bro. Relax. He's the number one nox man. 92:01 Relax. 92:02 That's the same nigga, man. 92:05 So the number two nox men are TKZ. 92:07 The number two nox men are TKZ. 92:13 Because they knocked Weiser. 92:16 Mm-hmm. 92:17 of a respectable retirement, of a respectable legacy. Because they're not putting in work into uplifting the brand that they created with Kaz 2001. 92:26 That was the brand of them saying, okay, we are able to stand up on our own. We're not just kids who are signed to a record label, who've got a record deal, who are making quite a music. 92:33 You know? When they made Palafala, that's what it was about. It was about the whole entire community that contributed to the song. You know what I mean? When they made... 92:45 Attention, attention. What were you talking about? I got a few things to mention. 92:52 What year was that? 92:54 2001, I think. How old was that, bro? That was two years old, bro. 93:02 So they're going to be judged very harshly. They're going to be judged very harshly. If any of their artists go into depression, the same way we're judging Leroy harshly now, because he's associated with Luan Junkulu. He's the person that we blame if Luan Junkulu is not well because he's in charge of her career. That is true or wrong. He's in charge of her career. 93:22 He's in charge of her career. 93:23 And her career needs her to be healthy. And if he's not keeping her healthy, he's not allowing her to perform her fiduciary duties under whatever contract he's got her under. Right? So that's the complaint that Khuaiza was making. You know? And I've seen him try to do his own thing. He makes furniture now. And I even visited him at his house in Soweto. You know what I mean? He's got furniture there. He makes... Oh, come on. Why Olaha? When are you making t-shirts here? Because you can't get brands. 93:55 No, serious. This guy likes making himself better. Nonsense. Nonsense. Just because you go to private hospitals, you want to... Nonsense. This guy loves disrespecting people. What the hell? What the hell? So that's the thing. You know, you didn't sign... What's this artist that you were staying with? 94:14 Tahila. No. Oh, but you didn't. Yeah, Leroy took her. But you didn't sign the other one that you say is your daughter. You didn't sign her. 94:22 No, I didn't sign her. 94:23 Why? Because you didn't want to be responsible for her life and her career outcomes. 94:26 I didn't want to be responsible for anything that goes wrong in her career because I'm so close to her like that. I care about her like that. Like, hey, man, I'd rather be or watch or protect from the outside, which I felt already. But what I was trying to say is that I care about you so much like my daughter and I'm that dad that don't want to benefit from their kids. Simple. I don't want to benefit from my kids. Once I consider you my daughter or my son, that's shy. Or family. Exactly. 94:52 Not doing business with you, man. TKZ family need to fix that. You know, they need to sit down together and think about the actual legacy that they have because they don't have Tukulu. 95:01 The most talented of all of them. Okay. Well, Lance McCormack actually produced a lot of that album. It wasn't really Zwei's production early on. So we can't call him the most talented or more talented. And Loiso is a much more talented out of the Bala brothers. The most talented out of the Bala brothers anyway. 95:19 Yeah. 95:23 Ben is in the 18 area. That's what he's saying. He's alleging that he wrote part of the lyrics and Loiso is the one who gave him a quack. Said, nah, nigga, which rhyme did you write there? But Loiso was also not on the song. It's all people talking now, ne? 95:36 It's old for conversation. It's the 80s and the 70s. 95:39 Why do you call people old? 95:42 So people are allowed to call you fat? 95:43 Those are 70s brews, guys. That guy went to Sacred Heart. If you are working with old people, it's okay for old people to call you fat. You went to Fern Dale, dog. Fern Dale has got red and black uniform. It's not Sacred Heart, though. Sacred Heart is where Huizar went, dog. You know Fridge? 96:01 Fridge is the English that comes from Model C schools. That's what it's called. You understand what I'm saying? That guy is a cheese boy. Okay, well, not a cheese boy. He went there on bursary. But that's who he is. So don't nyata him, dog. That guy went to one of the top schools in South Africa. 96:15 You know who else went to Sacred Heart? Yeah. 96:18 Ramukhas. Shut out. Shut out. Shut out. You good? You good? No, no, no. I wasn't laughing at the furniture business. And don't come for my brand, bro. I'm not coming for your brand, dog. You can't say brands are leaving me now. I'm selling T-shirts. Brands started leaving now. They just left now. It's an upcoming brand, guys. 96:34 Oh, they're leaving now that you're selling T-shirts. 96:36 And you can't be celebrating that. You can't make a joke out of that. I'm not making a joke, dog. I'm losing money and you're making a joke out of it. No, I'm not making a joke, dog. I would never. You can't do that, dog. 96:42 I would never smile on your misfortune. Nah, bro. Dog. I'm not done. 96:44 I'm not done. I saw Calvin Momo's in a new relationship now. He's got a new woman named Nontando. Who? Where's the picture? No, I don't... Oh, can't find her, can't find her. Find her, find her, find her. Limbobo boy's got another... Calvin Momo. Calvin Momo. Oh, but they're both cheetahs. 97:03 Who's that? Oh, they're both cheated. They're both cheated. Who and who? Oh, Kelvin Momo cheated. Again, that was the big allegation. That's why Babala was posting sad stories at some point in time. That's why she's saying she doesn't care. 97:16 Oh, yeah? She posted her song with Mahu. 97:21 Is it? 97:21 Wait... 97:23 People are saying that she was posting that song because she was aiming it at Kelvin Momo. Oh, yeah? Posting his new girl. You're another girl here. That's the lady. That's the lady. Sorry. But my allegation is that... How is she? 97:35 Compared to Babala? Why do I feel like I know this lady? 97:36 She's just celebrating the fact that Tyler submitted it to the Grammys instead of the song with Mahu. 97:42 Where do you know her from, bro? 97:47 Hey. 97:48 But Mahu is jealous of Babala right now. 97:51 I feel like I know this lady, bro. Yeah? Are we happy for him that he's in a new relationship? We celebrate relationships. 97:55 And I don't understand why she'd be jealous that Babala's song is the one that got submitted for the Grammys and not hers. 98:00 Oh, yeah? 98:01 Yeah, she should have submitted Banging Tala herself. 98:03 I feel like I know this lady, man. I'll remember next week. 98:07 Babala would have had a song that would have been submitted for the Grammys. 98:11 So that's the lady that he trained with back then? I'm not sure. Because I don't think Kelvin Momo would submit a Babala song for the Grammys. 98:22 Even though all his latest hits have got Babala on them. Oh, yeah? Yeah, but she's fire, eh? So Babala got two submissions at the Grammys. Because Jazzworks also submitted Uvar. 98:32 Oh, yeah? 98:33 Yeah. All right. So it can't be that Tyler's hating on Mahou. 98:36 So are you saying that we're happy for... Yeah, Samboinge, Lumum. Huh? Samboinge. 98:44 For what? 98:45 I'm a happy mahu. 98:46 He's a stepfather. Nonsense. We lament stepfathers here on this show, dog. Nonsense. A baddie with two kids. Let me tell you something. 98:55 Dog. He's a stepfather. Pussy can't be that important to you that you're giving up your career. Nigga hasn't dropped shit the whole year. He's picking up kids from school. Other people's kids. He hasn't dropped shit the whole year. When was the lifetime Calvin Momon released? Dog. This guy used to release quarterly. 99:14 Was it this year or last year? You used to release quarterly. 99:15 It was this year, right? He didn't drop this year. 99:17 You used to release every four months. Three times a year. 99:20 Yeah. 99:21 Now what? Relationship. No, dog. I see you finally released music also. Tell, I see you. Tell, I see you. Why? Why? Why? 99:30 Why? Because we said he must release and stop focusing on women. 99:33 You must stop focusing on them girls, bro. That girl almost had him. She had him. That girl almost destroyed this career. She ate the money. No, she ate it. 99:43 Every cent of money, Lorraine ate it. Trust me. 99:56 No, I'm so tired I see you. 99:59 I'm so tired I see you. There's a place we eat fish and yellow pop in Midway. I forgot the name. He just grew up in Tembisa, but he's a Limpopo boy. 100:08 He's a Tonga boy. Don't worry, he's a Limpopo boy. Limpopo boys are like that. They're done with money. 100:13 I've been in love with vendor food, so that's where I... They spend money on women, dog. So now listen, bro. Let me come. So... 100:19 So, he's packed already, so I'm looking for space to pack. It's during the day, the same place. So he sees me, he's sharing weed. He passed the weed to somebody. 100:30 I mean, you know, it's an ICU, it's a smoking dog. I know you smoke this shit, bro. Okay. 100:37 And it's legal. Yeah. And he went, he came, I was sitting down. 100:41 In the privacy of your own home? He had a conversation, it's not his home. Oh, you're born a man. It was, yeah. So, 100:48 Now we're having a chat. So I'm asking him, I'm like, this guy used to be dope, bro. I'm like, bro, what's up with you? Where you been? He's like, no, I'm gigging overseas. Now he's too dope. I'm like, okay, but the music, where's the music? He's like, no, no, no, I'm dropping through it from now, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I look at him, I'm like, Vegas, bro. 101:06 Uh, The music industry is so dangerous that you're as good as your last marriage, dog. Which is as good as your last hit. Yeah. As good as your last video. Bro, if you don't have a hit, people forget about you, dog. Okay. They say we were rocking Deb and Gogo. Who's talking about Deb and Gogo now? 101:26 Don't you miss it? 101:28 No, I don't. 101:28 No, I'm saying, doesn't she wish we said something about her anything? 101:32 Oh, I thought you were talking about the sex position. You're talking about the DJ. Oh, yes. Doesn't she wish? Wish Devin Gogo's a sex position? Oh, you don't know Devin Gogo's a sex position. Which one is that one? Apparently it's like a reverse cowgirl, right? 101:46 Come on, guys. Who explained it? You guys didn't watch the vintage episodes of Podcasting Chill. Who explained it? Deben Gogo explained it herself? Yeah, it's a sex position. 101:54 What did she say? It's a sex position. 101:56 I'm not telling you lying. 101:57 Imagine, when she had that name, she couldn't do the position. But now, thanks to the Olympic, she might be able to. You have a sex position called Deben Gogo? Yeah. No, but there's a Deben Gogo in Durban also, right? There's a guy called Deben Gogo, right? No, no, no. 102:10 No, no, no. It's not Deben Gogo. It's... What, what Gogo? 102:13 Dog Deben. 102:14 Yeah, DogDBN. Oh, DogDBN. Yeah, DOG. Oh, okay, okay. Wine Wednesday. 102:18 So, I wasn't trying to... I was just saying, doesn't she wish somebody said anything about her? Like, anything. What is that you say? There's nothing. Because you're as good as your last match. And your last match right now is Music Pulse. No, she did the 24 Hours Mix, man. 102:31 Who cares about it? Where is it now? 102:32 It was now a record. 102:34 Even Jamie came with the pizza thing, man. That made Angelic. More relevant. That made Jelik. More relevant, more relevant. Nah, bro. 102:40 Nah, nah, nah, nah. Jelik is in studio. Nah, nah, nah. He's working with people. Nah. He's dropping good songs. Jelik has a hit in the streets now. Two hits. Jelik is a legend. You can't talk with Jelik, dog. 102:49 Why is she legendary at? 102:50 Nah, nah, nah. Not Jelik. 102:52 Deben Gogh can't make Jelik, bro. No way, bro. She's not a Shimza. Nah. Let's be honest. She's not number 75. She can play. She can play. She can play very well. Better than Waffles. Oh, no, no, she can play. Better than Waffles. I don't know. No, better than Waffles, yes. That's what you said. But Waffles is a legendary performer. Okay. Unforgettable. You can't forget Waffles. Right. So what I wanted to say, back to stepdads, like what you were saying, brother. 103:13 I was watching a show on... YouTube. It's not YouTube, man. Something about... Who presents it? Manaka. Is it Manaka? Manaka Ranaka. 103:22 Oh, Manaka Ranaka. Yeah. Generations. Generations. 103:25 Yeah, yeah. So she has a show. It says... Oh, really? 103:30 On TV? 103:30 Yeah, on TV. I think it sounds magical. Okay. Right? So I'm watching, I'm streaming. I get it in things. My wife accumulates it and then I just... I get you. I just watch it. 103:40 Has she ever interviewed her sister's baby daddies? 103:42 It's not about interviews. So the show... Maybe the inspiration comes from there. Yeah, okay. Maybe the inspiration comes from there because it's... If you... Let's say hypothetically you are dating Maz... I respect the Ranaka family, bro. I love them too much. 103:56 I love the legendary, bro. Chaos, they're the owners of it. Love, they're the owners of it. 104:00 They're just legendary in a lot of things, so I love it. 104:15 But, so the show is... I want to try to finish so that I can advise the kids, bro. Yeah? 104:22 So, here's the thing, man. I probably met someone a stepdad. Cool. How? No, no, no. My first daughter... 104:29 My first daughter, when I was still a boy, my daughter I have, the mother married somebody else. 104:33 But you're taking care of your daughter, though. 104:35 Of course! 104:36 So, he's not a stepdad. 104:38 So, okay. That's what I'm saying! Okay, wait, let me finish, bro. Okay, my bad, my bad. 104:43 Okay, chef. At least you know. At least you know. Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm. 104:51 Niggas try to pin you. When they're burning in hell. 104:54 I had a dream. They want company. I had a dream. You had a dream about what? I had a dream. That what? I don't want to rock my brother, but I had a dream. What was the dream about? Do you want to hear my dream? 105:03 Yeah, let us hear it. I can hear it, dog. You want to hear it? Yeah. 105:06 I had a dream. 105:07 Yeah. 105:07 I had it, guys. I had a dream. I was chilling with Nota. In Limpopo? 105:12 It was just a dream. I'm talking about where he had that dream. 105:16 It was just a dream, dog. Nobody must hold anyone accountable for me. Mid consultation. It was just a dream. 105:24 Nota opened his phone, went on Instagram, on my dream. In my dream. In your dream, yes. I showed me a kid, okay? 105:31 It's a girl, okay? Light-skinned kid. Okay. Right? And he was asking me, doesn't this kid look like me? Ooh. 105:39 Okay. But someone else is raising her. How? That was a dream I had. 105:45 So, to be honest with you, 105:49 Yeah, my ex-wife had a similar dream. 105:51 Has it? Yeah, so... No, but me, I dream, bro, for real. Did you know I had a dream last night? You don't smoke weed, that's why. No, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait. 106:00 It's not a rock. It's coming too close to home. Hold on, let's hear this. Tahi, relax, chief. It's not a rock. You're not Zilla. You don't shut people up. No, but there's NDS. 106:08 I can't rock you anymore. Oh, yeah. 106:11 Oh, what? So... So, in my dream, I was having a conversation with Mac, right? So I guess I was wondering how today's episode is gonna go. And then Mac was like, bro, and then this boy is like, I know, he's back, don't worry. In my dreams, and when I walk here, my boy is inside. I was like... 106:30 Meg told you to dream. Sorry, in my dream. Meg told you to dream that I'm back. You're trying to confirm that your dreams come true. Is that what he's trying to say? Why were you dreaming about me? 106:36 I keep dreaming. 106:36 You were worried that I wasn't going to come back. You were worried that I wasn't going to come back. I didn't want to even think about it. You were stressed. I was stressed. Yeah, that's why you dreamed about it. 106:45 Yeah, I was stressed. 106:46 If I have a daughter, she'll show herself by being a top A student or something. 106:50 Maybe she is. So now, let me go because I want the kids to get this thing, bro. So in that show, she... 106:59 Like if you are step-dead and the father, the baby dad is not taking care of the kid. Yeah. So you and Manak are going to chase the dad and the lady and force him to make... Yeah, to be responsible. So now you as a man... So now let me come, bro. Okay. Let me land, not come. 107:18 Come, mama. Hey, this man, he's been saying a lot of zesty things today. 107:22 So as I'm watching, I watch about 10 episodes, if not 15 episodes of it, like the whole day. 107:27 Damn it. Yeah, I watch TV like that. Oh, damn it. And you got money. It's 800 to watch that shit. 107:34 So, most people that are into stepdadings, like being stepfathers, are kids. Like 22, 23, 25, 26. Really? Yeah. Most of the shows, most episodes I watch, it's like kids, kids, kids, kids. Someone there met a girl, but she was already pregnant, but he fell in love with her. And now he's taking care of the kid. And now the dad is not taking care of the kid. And I look... And I look... 108:01 It's porn. One of the top categories in porn is pregnant women. 108:06 These kids watch pregnant women on porn. That's what gets them off. And then they start being attracted to pregnant women. How do you find a pregnant woman attractive, Doc? 108:17 And now my advice to these kids, man, your Bruce is... 108:21 You, like, you get what I'm saying, this, you young generation. Age group. This age group. I'm not saying Bruce, but I'm saying Bruce, right? I'm just saying. Gen Z. Like the age group, like the C knows the U. 108:33 For me, bro, do you know how hard it is for a girl to date you when you have a kid? 108:41 There's no girl that will date you when you have a kid and you're broke. Mm-hmm. That's true. There is no girl that will date you. You need to have money and access to things. The only time you sacrifice is when they see a future. If they can't see that shit, they're not coming. So why are you guys suggesting yourselves to being step dead at a young age? 109:03 To being stepped on. 109:06 No, man, don't do that, bro. It's so much fish in the sea, bro. Take your time, bro. Lots. Take your time. You're going to step dead. Bro, it's not easy, dog. There are girls turning 21 every day. It's not easy. 109:18 With no kids. And here's how those people respond. Those, what you call this, the baby daddies when they fetch them. Most of them, they say, Mm. 109:30 You know what that means? Like you like treating up stuff that is not for yours. Exactly. 109:42 My advice to them kids, man. Take your time with them kids, man. Take time with these girls, man. 109:49 How old is Kelvin Mom? Isn't he a 94? He's a millennial. He can't be a kid, dog. Kelvin Mom was in his 30s, right? He's 32 years old. 109:59 32 years old, dog. He looks 50, bro. He's famous. He's got influence in the music industry. He does. It's the Pooza face. He looks 50, bro. It's the Pooza face. But he looks younger than Gabza. 110:09 He looks 50. 110:10 So, you know, he does. 110:14 Gabza looks 70. Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza, Gabza 110:27 Kabso doesn't look older than me, bro. Come on, bro. He doesn't, he doesn't. Nah, he doesn't. He doesn't. 110:31 You're alone, Baba. He doesn't. Scorpion Kings is not coming back next to you. Relax. 110:36 That was the last dance. You understand? So, Kelvin Momo, come on, dog. Come on, dog. We can't be talking about you and your dating. 110:47 Because now you've got a new honey. Now because you've got a beautiful girl. 110:51 I'm happy. Look at this nigger. Look how happy he is. He's allowing us to rock you. He's just watching. He's not even participating. Look at him. You're making Tahi happy, dog. Come on, dog. Imagine both her hair laughing at you as Kelvin Momo. Come on, dog. Because he's the same father. 111:07 Dog. I'm happy for Babalu I am, dog. 111:09 I'm really happy. She's got no kids. I kept saying she deserves better. She's got no kids. Yeah, but I kept saying she deserves better, even way better. Guess what? 111:15 She don't care. 111:18 What do you mean? She don't care. 111:19 She don't care about what? 111:20 No, that's her song. With Tyler. 111:23 He doesn't care. 111:24 Oh, that's the song. Okay. Yeah, but can I, can I, I'm happy for Baba Alwa M and to just South Africa, those who thought I hate Baba Alwa, I hate Momo. Like Baba Alwa deserves really bad, like deserved better. That's what I saw then. And I'm telling you right now, I'm sure she's in a better place and space wherever she is. She deserves to be happy wherever she is. Trust me, she's been saved. 111:47 Please trust me. She's been saved. 111:49 Lovely. 111:49 That's all I'm telling you. 111:50 Or maybe she offended him. She's been saved. Maybe she offended him. 111:55 Maybe he was rocking there one day and then she said, deeper, deeper, deeper. And he thought, hey, is this girl? Same dipping. 112:07 No, as in, you know what I mean? That's what women say sometimes. Ah, man, no more nicer news. Mid round. We're talking about Butterball just now. Deeper and deeper and deeper. 112:21 I'm Nani's TV. None deeper. 112:25 I was saying, when a boy built a clinic, a library and a school for his people in River State, Nigeria. In River State. They said the fence alone was built with... They have a place called River there? River, River, River State. They've got a Niger River. River State. 112:39 Oh, that sounds like South Africa, bro. Did they take this name here? No, no, no. 112:43 We don't have River Sands and Riverside. 112:45 No, they've got real rivers. No, no, they've got real rivers there. They're deep enough to have boats inside. So relax. I think we'll just clap to Burner Boy. 112:53 That's a good thing, right? 112:54 Shout out to Burner Boy for finally doing something. What do you mean for finally doing something? Maybe you can inspire my soul. Because he drives Bugattis, Lamborghinis and all that shit in potholed roads and all that type of shit. You know, maybe if my soul looks at Burner Boy and what Burner Boy is doing in that shithole called Nigeria, maybe he can be inspired to not live in a shithole 113:15 He lives in Marikana, dog. 113:18 Nigger lives in the fucking slums. And he's proud of it. Why are you bit breaking this week? Oh, the bit breaking this week because I don't have a phone. Oh, yeah. 113:27 Ah, my bad. 113:28 I don't have a phone. I don't have a phone. And apparently people who wrote me are trying to... 113:32 I just washed it. You got a tape of it, no? I washed it. No, I washed it. I washed it in a foot conditioner. 113:37 It looks good. It looks good. Ah, forget that. 113:39 Apparently the people who stole my phone are using my phone to do... I mean, they're using my number to do shitty stuff, but MTN was able to block it. 113:46 Scams. Oh, they blocked it. Thank you. Thank you, MTN. 113:48 I just want to say thank you to MTN. You saved my ass. 113:52 The thing is this. Next time you register your SIM card or you do RECA, you must make sure that it's registered where you have to actually physically appear at the store to do a SIM swap. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Oh, that's what you're doing. 114:02 That's the only way. Okay. That's the only way. So they used it, they removed it, and they put it on a different phone because mine was locked, and then they were trying to scam people with that number. But MTN noticed, but no, this is not this guy, man. 114:13 This guy doesn't do this thing. Don't push it. Okay. Again, he reported his phone as lost. 114:18 They were watching you. You report your phone. When you report your phone as lost, he reported the case, dog. That's a very expensive phone. 50-stina, dog. 114:28 Never. Never. You have to get the ITC number. You have to make the story juicier, my brother. I understand. It happens. You're a podcaster. 114:36 I just lost the most expensive phone in the country. You are talking shit. Imagine. 114:40 I'm still on the 16th. 114:41 Guess where it ended up? Okay. 114:43 Why? 114:44 Why don't you call DJ Spoo? It's a hot spot. Why don't you call Mzeghe Zeghe? 114:49 Why don't you call Mabuda? Who's Mabuda? Big break, dog. Big break there. Mzeghe Zeghe dropped a new track with Scott's Mapuma. Right. Fire track. Congratulations to DJ Spoo. 115:07 I guess. 115:07 This guy mislead us as kids. Now you want to mislead our kids again. 115:25 Actually, you know what I found out? A funny story. That whole entire pinky pinky thing was a lie. It was just said to scare little girls away from going into toilets alone because... 115:36 Some of the toilets were very risky and they could be sexually assaulted by people hiding inside the toilets. So they made a whole entire myth about Pinky Pinky to keep the kids safe. 115:45 Dobb! Yeah. Oh, is that true? Okay, maybe DJ Spoo is trying to keep kids safe with a mzge-zge myth. 115:52 You understand? That you can make it out of the hood even if you don't have perfect English. You can interview Abu Jarul. You can see all the biggest stars in the world and all that stuff. That's inspiring, dog. You know? That's inspiring for a lot of people, dog. Maybe it's the reason why Abu Maisol are out there in the world. 116:07 And I said, I'm trying to make that money. 116:08 Because they saw him doing it. Carry on, pre-break, that's it. Dog, he's paying Clippers, dog. 116:18 I'm making sure that the My Soul Clippers clip every time I mention My Soul. 116:23 He's paying them a lot of money, chief. What's in the song? 116:26 Nothing, really. 116:28 But who? 116:28 Like, honestly, like, what do you expect it from? What the fuck? Why do you bring it up there? What's the subject matter? There's no subject matter. No, it's a beat break, dawg. We beat break, whether we like the song or not. You know what I mean? No, no, but you beat break and tell us what's in the song. The song is a typical Kwaito beat. You know, typical Kwaito beat. I heard a song, man. 116:45 I heard a song and that one doesn't sound like music. It sounds like DJ's boo exactly. Okay. Um... 116:53 Yeah, yeah, like, it's my beat break. I heard that song twice. He played for me. Scott's Mapuma is on a song. It's quite a song. I'm glad Scott is trying out other sounds. 117:02 But you got eight. 117:04 Eight what? 117:05 Mzeghe Zeghe ate him. 117:06 I won't lie. Mzeghe Zeghe's verses are fire. 117:10 They're fire, dog. 117:12 And the thing about them being fire is that... 117:17 Think about that. Mzeghe Zeghe was the original Scott's Mapuma. 117:21 Just with the mask on. 117:23 You know what I mean? Was he? Think about it. Zega Zega's lyrics, were they ever deep? 117:27 They were never deep. He wasn't doing what Brown Dash was doing. That's fucking deep, dog. 117:39 But some dog has a punchline. It's a nut dog. What the fuck is about some dog's piece? What is it? Exactly. It's a song. I didn't know that. By Flabba. That's deep. It's not deep. R.I.P. to Flabba. It was his birthday on the 17th with Eminem. 117:54 The lyric content, they shallow. 117:55 That's it. They're comedians. 117:57 Exactly. They're comical. You know what I mean? They say things that are catchy, that are funny. They never go deep into lyrics. You know? And that's it. 118:07 So it was a perfect match of two guys who are going to say something about nothing. That's deep. That's too extreme. They don't get to that level. Oh, yeah. 118:18 You know what I mean? So yeah, I like the track. I think it's a dope fire track. I wish that whoever's behind it, the record label that's pushing it can really push it. You know what I mean? Because we need some old school Kwaito tracks. We need to hear some old school Kwaito tracks done the way that we're used to. Not this Kabelo Mabalani gospel new age sampling Brenda Fasten. 118:37 I mean, there's no way, bro. Now you had the drugs in my body and then today I'm all rappelling. Now I never go into serious. I never go into serious. I struggle to get my balance serious, dog. I struggle, bro. It's like you had a deal with the devil and now he's trying to shift somewhere, bro. No, no, no, no. This nigga was on drugs, dog. Allegedly, bro. 118:59 He's genuine about it. He's not doing a casper in your vest. No, it's not alleged. It's not a letter. He was on the white. 119:06 Now, Jiggy Jiggy, now we must come to your church. Now you're a pastor. Now you're no longer doing kwaito that you were making for us. Now you're doing gospel kwaito. So you don't believe that people can change? No, people don't change, dog. Jesus was sentenced to death. People don't change? People survived. 119:19 And convicted. How? People don't change. People survive, dog. Kamelok is still convicted. 119:25 I mean, you still got conviction. People don't change. People survive, dog. I'll tell you now. Anyone can come to church. 119:29 It's Christianity. We forget. People don't change. They find a different way to survive. Shut up. I'm telling you. Shut up. You hear me? Yeah. Yeah. I never. I used to drink. 119:44 I don't. 119:46 Ever. 119:47 Me, bro. From drugs. From drugs. God saves you immediately. 119:52 To the pulpit as a passer. No, he did work. 119:56 He was groomed. He did Bible school for a long, long time, dog. And think about it like this. Who is going to run Rayma now? Pastor Ray McCauley is not there. 120:09 You understand? That's big shoes to fill. Even Joshua couldn't fill them. Joshua had to start his own church somewhere else. 120:15 Remember that day when we shot the game show with Nguze? 120:20 Nguze told me that. 120:22 What? The game show hasn't played yet. No, no, no. He told me that. He told me that. AKA was paid 870,000 rands. To come perform in Durban that weekend, he was killed. 120:30 870,000 rands. That's almost a million rands. That was not suspicious. 120:43 Why did he still go? 120:44 He was desperate. Why? For what? Duh. He hadn't been gigging for a long time. He lost his cruise brand vodka deal. And his lifestyle is expensive, dog. Yeah, yeah. I was once at Bram Fisher Airport. AKA was busy on the phone with Benzer telling him, yo, deposit 180,000 in my account right now. He needed to give Bonang some money. 121:01 Imagine. 121:10 And I'm watching this man. We're about to hire our car. We're at Bram Fisher Airport at the Avis. We're about to get our hired cars out. This nigga, apparently Bonang was somewhere. She needed money. This nigga told his manager, yo, 180's dinner right now. That's why he made that song. 121:29 So wherever Lorraine is sitting, you must know she's sitting pretty because I'm sure Tyler Icey, you also... Dissert! 121:36 Yo! But I mean, the 871... 121:38 This girl's expensive, bro. Dog. Eight... This girl's expensive, bro. 800,000? Like I said, that's a very small amount for a guy as big as AKA. 121:47 Ah, bro. That's just girl's expensive, man. I mean, what is the maximum average of pussy, bro? Of buying pussy? I don't know. I don't buy. 121:57 It depends, dog. Not every girl can say, I fucked the biggest stars in Africa. 122:05 Yeah, that's what Bonang said. She said it with her own mouth. She said it. I fucked the biggest stars in Africa. What was Nadia thinking when she said that? 122:14 What was Nadia? She was dating AKA at that time. 122:17 Oh, then she was bragging that she's fucking Super Meg. And now Bonang was saying I fucked the biggest. But who was the biggest there? 122:24 No, you didn't watch that show. No, you don't watch Netflix. No, no, no. Yeah, I just started watching it actually. What is that? Young, Famous and African. 122:31 Oh, I watched the show, man. 122:32 Nguzo also said that... Nguzo also said that... As an artist, if they want to kill you, right? They'll book you and then give you a location that's like in the bushes. That's out of nowhere. And then you'll follow that location, right? And then... 122:49 You've got to have dam management, because if you book an artist from me, bro, I'm checking the venue, I'm calculating the distances, I'm confirming the venue, I'm doing everything. Yo, but they'll send you the location. They'll send you the location, they'll tell you it's at a farm. 122:58 That's why it's small. 122:59 It's at a farm. What location are you checking? Because it's at a farm too. Nah, that's a small farm, dog. Small holding. 123:07 Small holdings, same holdings. 123:09 Understand? Yeah. That was his Durban July moment, by the way. Him being on podcast and chill. Those 70,000 viewers live. That was his Durban July moment. That was his moment where he's got the convoy for him. And after this, it's all downhill. We'll be celebrating. Don't worry. You will be celebrating his downfalls. Yes. 123:26 Proudly. 123:28 South Africa. I remember his hit song now. It's doing fucking well, dog. Oh, T-Man Express. I forgot about this song. T-Man Express's rate card has gone up. His rates have gone up now. And I understand it. Why? I spoke to him about it. I was like, ah, T-Man. He's like, no, dude, honestly, we've been working hard. Don't you think we deserve it? I was like, at this point, you really do, man. I can't speak against it. But what is he doing for his show? I can't speak against it. 123:50 You're working hard on what? 123:52 I can't. What's wrong with you? I'm asking. 123:56 You said he didn't work out. 123:57 Can't you come down and just listen for once, man. 123:58 Relax, I'm excited you're here. Sorry. 123:59 I was like, you deserve that. Excited Benji's back. 124:06 Please stop calling me Benji. It's not landing. Can you see how clean I am? 124:09 Don't worry, you'll see in the comments if it's not landing. 124:12 No, but who looks more like Benji between the three of us? 124:15 Who looks more like Benji between the three of us? These two yellow bones. 124:19 Oh, because I'm dark? Of course. 124:20 Because I didn't shave. 124:21 Of course, my nigga. You left that thing again. What's wrong? Where? He's got a hit song. His ratings have gone up. He's gigging all over the country. 124:39 He's doing amazing well. Today he has, what is he doing today? Thanksgiving, I think, in his hood. And DK, I'm going to go there. Who's he thinking? I have no idea. Maybe his community, his fans, whatever. 124:49 All his dreams come from DK. No, not really, but he gets a lot of love and support from his hood. A lot of love and support. 124:55 I want to know from you guys, as music execs, right? What should you do with a hit song? Is it just about bookings? How can you maximize a hit song? 125:05 A hit song? 125:05 Yeah, how can you maximize it to the full? 125:07 Well... 125:09 That's the thing. 125:11 You need to try to make it a classic. That's it. 125:15 You know? No, no, no. But... Yeah, that's it. Remember, you need to make it a classic. That's what I'm saying. As in today, 2026, people are still booking Cuesta because of Ngot. Dropped on January the 20th, 2016. 125:29 January the 18th, actually. Okay. You know what I mean? They're still booking for that song in particular. That song in particular. So if Remember becomes a legendary hit... 125:38 you know, then he can still get bookings for that right now. Look at a guy who messed up his hit. 125:44 We were speaking about him earlier. 125:46 Gave all the money to Lorraine. 125:48 Tyler, I see you. 125:51 But Mnige, okay. When Mnige was hot, it was hotter outside of South Africa than it was in South Africa, dog. Nobody partied to Mnige better than I did. 126:01 I did so in the States. Everywhere around the States, dog. East Coast, West Coast, you name it. Nigga was going down. That was the highlight song at every party the entire year. 2023. The entire year 2023. Nothing was bigger than that. Did he perform one gig in the States at that point in time? Zero. 126:20 None whatsoever. 126:22 Didn't do shit, don't he? Didn't go to Europe. Went after the song is already buzzed and everything else. All those booking inquiries were a year old by the time he went international with that song. 126:35 You need to expand your market and you need to make a moment memorable. You need to transport people to this exact point in time in their lives 10 years from now. That's how you take advantage of a hit. 126:48 The way you do that is that you apply it to different platforms. You synchronize it. 126:53 You know what I mean? You make it part of advertisement campaigns. You put it in movies. Netflix is paying a lot of money to have your songs featured in movies. You know what I mean? It's so funny that on Young, Famous and African, they hardly featured any Nadia Nakai songs. 127:06 Are they dope? 127:08 I'm asking. It's not a rock. I mean, it's dope. It's not a rock. No, it's dope. So you must not ask questions. 127:14 But they're SKA songs and he wasn't even on the show. 127:18 Classics. 127:19 You need to make those classics. You need to be getting bookings for your songs long after they are not popular anymore. We watched Ringo Maglingos shut down the whole of FNB Stadium with Sondelle. 127:34 How many other Sondellas are there? 127:37 There's that one by Venom and whatnot. 127:41 Right? You know that Sondella. 127:43 Right? 127:44 There's Sondela by Ricky Rick. 127:47 As well. The reason why Ngambela is Ngambela because Java heard that Ricky's got a song called... Sondela. So he made it... No. Is that the story? I don't know. Oh, the other way around. Something like that. Something like that. Something like that happened. Something like that. You know what I mean? 128:01 I'm just doing this. 128:02 I don't know shit. Something like that. 128:04 Okay. 128:05 That's a big song, dog. It's still rocking to this day that you forget any other Sondela. They played Ringo's Sondela. 128:12 No, no, but you said you must make it a classic. Now you go to studio, a song like Peter Maroon comes out. You can't make that a classic. Exactly. What can you do with it then if it's a song like that? 128:22 That's what I'm talking about. You need to get it in sync deals and adverts. You understand? You need to put it in movies. Why? Because in movies, when someone is watching a movie and a song is part of the soundtrack, it makes a memory. 128:34 And that memory transports them back to that place and time in their life when they were watching that movie, when they were enjoying that movie. It becomes part of their soundtrack as well and their life. There's many songs that are trash, that are classics. Sister Bettina, worst song ever. 128:48 Worst song ever. Disgusting song. You can't even play that in front of kids, dog. Can't play that shit. If you do, you're abusing kids. They played it at the fucking stadium. 128:56 They played it at the stadium when the springboks are playing, papa. So you would make a list of that song a classic. 129:01 You could. 129:03 You could. You could make it a classic, right? But the problem is that you're going to have to deal with the teen pregnancy that arises from that. 129:11 I'm just saying. I'm just saying. That song is a rapey song, dog. 129:16 We don't do what the lyrics say. We just sing the lyrics. All I know is that this... You understand? 129:33 Just saying. 129:37 It's not easy to make a classic out of songs, especially Amapiano songs. It's hard because there's a lot of people involved. And when there's a lot of people that are involved, there's a lot of clutches with the paperwork. Even Wood has clutches with paperwork. 129:49 So how do you... No, no, no. That was settled. We paid €3,500 for that. 129:54 Last week? 129:55 No, long time ago. When the song was released, remember, Pori had to confirm that he actually sampled the song. There was a whole big drama, dog. This was back in 2015, dog. 130:04 You don't have to defend yourself. No, I don't have to defend myself. I'm just saying, I'm terrifying that. 130:07 I know, because it's a rumor that's been... Yeah, but let you speak, nigga. Correct me if I'm wrong. Which song was blocked today by Son? Nothing. Oh, we're still there! 130:13 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 130:22 How do you maximize a hit? How do you maximize a hit? 130:27 Yeah, it's not easy to do that because there's a lot of egos that come to play. People start disputing the paperwork. Everybody wants a bigger cut. Everybody feels like they've done so much better or did so much work. This song actually remembers even better because it's just two people. Right? It's three people, actually. It's him, only him on the vocals. That's even better and he has a good relationship with them. He can do that. But so much you can do with a hit. A hit's supposed to change your life. We'll start there. Okay. And also, find a way to stretch. Your last spin is a spin. 131:00 Spin. Bookings. Especially with bookings. Maximize. You get what I'm saying? You must be able to stretch it because a hit can only last maximum of a year. 131:12 that's a good hit. 131:14 Next month for a year or a season or half a year. 131:17 So which is a summer season, the songs that are hit in summer, the songs that are hit in winter, they're no longer there, they're just like average songs. You get what I'm saying? It's not like Abandranabaku where it's a seasonal song, like anytime. I mean, it's not a seasonal song. Anytime you play Abandranabaku, it's a hit. So what you do with a hit single is... 131:39 You help grow your brand. First of all, you need to grow your brand there. Before you increase the bookings, you need to make sure that your performance is on point because of that hit single. If you have other single, other hits, even better. But your performance needs to improve. Your performance set changes immediately when you have a big song. You need to make your performance more interesting so you capitalize on the hit. That's what you need to do. Stage presence. Yes. As an artist manager... of the artist that has a big song, it's your job to go out and look for sync deals or publishing or whatever. 132:10 Go to the publisher, make sure that sync deals, they're involved. Like, maximize, do whatever you can. Can your rates go high because of a booking? I mean, because of a hit single? Yes. Yes. 132:20 It can go high because he's the most booked guy. Now, you know, I was taking 25k last week and then I don't have a hit. I have a hit now next month. Now I'm still on 25k, but I'm the most wanted in South Africa. But guess what they do? How many bookings will I have a day? It's nice on your no-chair now. 132:35 It's very nice. They take more bookings with that additional fee. 132:38 I'm here. I need to... 132:40 My bad. Yeah, Gondje, we are debating. 132:42 So when you have a hit single, it's your time to be boss. It's your time to be boss. You must show them. You must show them. You must not show them. You must not show them. Hold on, it's not show them. It's work less. 132:52 Oh, Gondje. I forgot about show them. Remember show them? That was 7HP's song and then JR stole it. 132:59 I know, I was there, I saw it. So, what I'm trying to say is that that's where you maximize your profit. 133:09 You maximize your profit, gigs. If you would charge at 25, you have number one song, Kalong wait to five. Until you get to 45 to 50. 133:23 45 to 50, that's little money, but yeah. 133:24 Yeah, I'm saying until you get to, I started by saying if you were charging 25. So you add five, you add five, you grow, and then rather to have three gigs a day, because by having three gigs, by performing less and make more, you extending the last pin of the song. 133:39 Okay. 133:39 That's true. More venue still wants to see you and you didn't make it to you. 133:43 But as a vocalist, you should never be doing more than one gig a day. 133:45 But what I'm sensing from you guys is just mostly it's about bookings. So when you have a hit, it's about bookings. Nothing else. No, business is about bookings, dog. That's how to fully maximize it. That's where the money is. 133:53 How else do you maximize it? I don't know. 133:55 That's why I was asking. 133:56 That's why they give up their rights. That's why they allow themselves to sign shit deals because they know they're going to make money off bookings. They give up the streaming money. 134:03 You guys mentioned like remixes, Feature International. No. Who wants remixes, bro? Look at the set of remixes. What is this? What is this? It was badly done. And then there was a... Let me tell you something, bro. 134:14 Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about remixes, bro. Sometimes if you drop a remix, I remember right now, you are killing the number one song. I'm telling you. 134:24 Don't fall into that trap on my remix. It's bullshit. I have a remix with Davido sitting in my computer. I don't give a fuck about it. For? For his shoot end. Oh, yeah? I don't give a fuck about it. What? Davido remixed it. It's there in my house, in my studio. So you're waiting for this one to, like, simmer down a bit? I don't even think I'll drop it. Everybody has access to Davido now. Oh. 134:44 Okay. Before we vote, competitors, there's this guy, man. It's not exclusive. It's not exclusive. There's this guy. It's not wow. 134:50 But hold on. T-Man Express. Was he developed as an artist? Everything that you said starts at the development of the artist from... He was. He was. A full-on artist. No, no. Was he developed as a performer? Did you see an artist that's developed on that stage? Wait. Have you seen T-Man's performers? I saw it at Scorpion Kings. How was it? It was terrible. Oh, wow. Dog. The song was bigger than him. Wow. People were excited for the song. He came there wearing a vest. Like, the song was the highlight, right? But in terms of what it's doing for his brand, dammit, I actually caught that fly. 135:22 But it slipped. Nah, not T-Man Express. Come on, let's be honest, dog. Let's be honest. Let me tell you about T-Man Express. Let me introduce you to T-Man Express. 135:30 He didn't even change the stage setting. It's his responsibility. 135:33 For his performance, yes. Because the stage performances were all selected before. Spaga told me this. He was like, yo, Nota, don't go too hard at Nasty C. We're the ones that chose the songs that he's going to perform. And I was like, aye, aye, aye. 135:44 Who chose that nonsense? 135:46 He was the musical director. He performed better songs and what experience, man. 135:58 Exactly. Oh, bro. You know what I mean? So, yeah. So that performance alone is not going to make the song more memorable, dog. What made... 136:08 Chris Brown's performance memorable at FNB Stadium is when he started flying around the stadium. Of course. He did antics. There were no antics that he did for us to remember that performance. Bro, bro, but the reason why we remember... 136:19 They were not going to let him do that. You are Tim Tyler. You know how to operate. 136:25 They will never let you... Isn't he part of that label? 136:28 Isn't T-Man a space part of New Money Gang or something? No. Piano Hub? No. He's an independent. He's an independent, probably. See, that's the thing. Well, okay. Gipa Entertainment should have done more. 136:38 For who? For who? 136:40 For that song. 136:41 Which song? 136:41 It's a Melon Sleazy song. No, it's T-Man's song. I know, it's a joint album, yes. 136:48 It's a joint album. What is it? It's a single. No, it's an album. Letong was on an album, dog. It's track number. It was on a project. 136:56 Yeah, but let me tell you, bro. I don't want you to ever doubt him and express performance. It's not because he's my friend. 137:04 He's one of the artists I'm interested in traveling with. When I'm not doing anything, like when I have time, I want to go to gigs and watch performances and how they operate. That guy is... Okay, when else is he going to have a 76,000 stadium? 137:17 to perform to. Now, when else is he going to have that chance? The only thing I can agree up with you on the Scorpion Kings, number one, bro, those niggas are short. That stage was huge as fuck. Exactly. It was like this, right? Terrible stage. We could only see Cubs on screen, bro. 137:38 Ah, with those big screens. That stage was just screens and steps. 137:41 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We could only see cabs from the screens. Like, that's how big the stage was. And some of them, let me tell you something. They had to fill up space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had to fill up space. Young Steiner was running around there, breathing through the wound. 137:56 Let me tell you something, though. 137:57 You got me. 137:57 No, hold on. 137:58 Let me tell you something, though. Let me tell you something, though. 138:01 Look at DJ Slick. DJ Slick capitalizing on a hit. He had a hit. The only hip-hop hit of the year. La Pisa. It was a hit for a month, but he's leveraging an album on top of that. 138:14 Yeah. 138:15 He's shot a follow-up single with Sjava, Kasper on Your Vest. He's getting views from that. He's getting bookings from that. You must remember that DJ Slick gave Cuesta his first hit. 138:26 Do Like I Do. 138:28 And he capitalized on that. He's been working since then. 138:31 Okay. You understand? 138:32 So there was no good without Do Like I Do. 138:35 Right. 138:36 It was capitalized on because the artist also understood the importance of the song and how to make it something significant. The DJ understood the importance of the song, how to make it something significant for them. So Melo and Sleazy, what have they done with their hits? They've had lots of hits. 138:52 They've done nothing for their brands. 138:53 Bro, if there's someone that's been mismanaged, I don't know. I don't know if they don't care about them or I don't know if melon sleeves are just not bubble gum people. Like, they're not people that want to be famous or whatever. I don't know, bro. Yeah, let's have it. 139:05 Let's have it for next week. Let's vote, comrade. 139:08 Don't call me that, bro. Don't call me that. 139:24 Have you been seeing Scroof? No, you know Scroof, right? 139:28 Yeah, let's hear it there. How do you know him? I'm on the mic, dog. You know him better. What is the piano legend or what? You know, I agree this guy that's trending for cooking on the decks doing this. 139:37 No, he was playing at Scorpion King's Live. 139:39 Yeah, no, please. 139:40 And the crowd was just looking at him like this. 139:42 Scorpion King's Live? Yeah. 139:44 He played? He played that song. 139:45 Scroof was one of the first artists to be signed by piano harp. Him and Guli and Bob. 139:51 Yeah, that's the end of his career. 139:53 With... I think M2TRP as well. Those were the guys, like the producers in the... 139:58 There's Scrooops, there's Scrooops legends. 140:01 Yeah, there's Shack Scrooops, basically. Yeah, those are the guys, man. Scrooops was always paired with Nkuli, so it was always Nkuli and Scrooops. Nkuli and Scrooops, I remember that from piano cards in Nandy. 140:15 I don't know about that. I won't lie. I don't know about that. Okay. So do you think he's going to maximize this whole thing? Do you think it's maximizable? I think he's trying to do that. He's trying to. Yeah, he's dying. Do you think it's going to work? 140:25 It might. It might work. People like it. Reacting to us. Biano Hub is putting a Twitter promo budget. I saw the Twitter promo that was being run for Scroof. You know what I mean? I could tell. Which promo? 140:35 Which promo? 140:36 He was trending. Scroof. Yeah. But he's trending. I don't think that's a promo. No, it was a promo, dog. For this. The people that I see posting that are people that take promo money. Okay. You understand? So as soon as I see those people... What was the hashtag? What was the hashtag? I don't know what it was. Scroof. Scroof was trending, dog. Scroof was trending. If you see Scroof trending, you'll see the same accounts posting the same thing over and over again. 140:57 You said something is happening there by Gokota. What's happening? 141:01 Yeah, let's park it. What are you listening to, Maldok? 141:04 I don't have a phone to listen to music, bro. 141:08 But I heard that Ringo Majlingo, my wife played me Ringo Majlingo's song with both his sons, Pilar Majlingo and I forgot the other, I forgot the other bro. It's beautiful, bro. Beautiful song, just go check it out. I think I forgot the name, but it's a beautiful song, Afropop song, jazz-like. I see what Ringo's trying to do, like put on your kids. But I... I was friends with Pilar Madlingos for a very long time. Pilar Madlingos? Pilar Madlingos for a very long time. 141:39 We even stayed together at some point. 141:41 Really? Yeah. There's still phones? Huh? Okay. I'm asking. There's still phones? Yeah. I was with him and Vucinova. Nah, Pilar doesn't do that. Between him and Vucinova, who stole my phone? Nah, Pilar doesn't. 141:53 I was in... 142:03 So these niggas were in the same rental car that I was in. 142:08 You know, we had a gig in Kredok and I lost my phone that day. It was my second phone, but you know, that's why I stopped having two phones. 142:16 But I don't think Bill is like that. I stayed with him. I never had issues like that. The only thing that might disappear is the weed. 142:23 Ah! If you steal the weed, you can steal the phone. 142:27 Because you can't buy the weed, so you steal the phone to sell the phone to buy the weed. I said that might disappear. It could be weird. But it never happened. He'll come and smoke it. 142:36 It never happened. So I'm happy. That's disgusting. I'm happy who Praringo's trying to put on his kids. It's just two big shoes to fill, bro. 142:45 Oh, yeah. 142:45 But why do you need to fill those shoes, guys? 142:49 That's why I want to try that conversation. It's rude on the timeline. Is it rude? Dr. Sam Matunyan. Is that him, Dudu? Dr. Sam Matunyan, just in case I'm wrong about saying his name, the guy who owns African bank. 143:00 Okay, there you go. Now. 143:07 His kid was talking about, yeah, my grandfather started, oh, his grandkid, his granddaughter was talking about, oh, my grandfather started African bank. Okay, so what? What do you owe now? Nothing. It's not generational this world. 143:19 No, it's not. 143:20 When we talk about Johan Rupert, we're talking about Anton Rupert's dad. We're talking about their grandparents. You know, they are handing over companies to their children. Pilar Madlingozi should be working on... Building a legacy for his artist father after his father is no longer here. 143:39 Yeah. 143:40 Building a museum. 143:42 Things like that. Yes. Okay. Johan Rupert has got a car museum. 143:45 Okay. 143:46 Which honors his father, actually. You know what I mean? Who started a car collection. You know, those are the things that we're looking for when we're looking at generational talent, dog. You shouldn't be trying to take a piece of this fame that your father has. 143:59 Look at Lucky Dubé's kids. They might be talented artists, but look at them. Look at Bongani, bro. Bongani is shit talented, bro. No, no, no, but he made a legacy for himself with Josie. 144:10 Yeah, yeah, no, no. He did. It wasn't even though. Keep it going. Exactly. Yeah, but hold on. What I'm trying to say is that Bongani is very, very talented, bro. But now he doesn't get to explore and come out as Bongani Farsi because you're always trying to beat your mom. You're always trying to feel that shoot. 144:27 But now he stopped that. You get what I'm saying. That's why he's busy giving rights to people like Kabelo to sample his mother's songs and making sure that his mother's legacy is... Trust me, he's doing music as a hobby now. He's not being serious. That's why he's spinning on his head in certain videos and all that shit. He's doing it as a hobby. What he's really focused on is protecting his mother's legacy and ensuring that... 144:47 I just sampled Brenda Fass's song. We must go to Bahrain. You have to pay him. You have to pay him. I'll pay him. Pay him. I paid him. 144:52 It's fine. How much do you pay him? 250,000. Comrades. I don't have... What are you listening to? Now? Yo. 144:59 I was listening to... Did you listen to Jaivani's album? Not yet. I haven't listened to it yet. I was listening to Sfazo's album. 145:07 Oh, yeah, Sfazo. Hit number one. Shout out Sfazo, man. With Tracy. For the album. Dog. I can't celebrate hitting number one anymore. Because he hit number one and replaced Latinova Pounds. But Latinova went back again. Who was number one because no one else released. But that thing, Munafu's album is number one now. No, Sminoff overtook him. Yeah, it's number one now. 145:25 Oh, Sminoff. 145:27 Yo, I won't lie. This Sminoff album, I listened to that as well. 145:29 It's a fact, man. It's number one. Check out Apple Music. It's number one. 145:31 Who's number one? Sfazo or Sminoff? 145:33 Sminoff. It Take Easy by Sminoff. 145:36 Okay, Sfazo hit number one for a moment and then It Take Easy by Sminoff. Sminoff has got a fan base, guys. I can't deny he's got a fan, a serious fan base because that music is not the one. 145:46 It's nowhere near the standard that Limit sets. 145:51 Limit's album, dog, come on. It's nowhere near. And Sminoff is a guy who you expect to be challenging about Limit in terms of quality of music. So him charting so high just means that his fan base is really solid. You know, when I listen to some of the songs, I'm like, jeez, these are not even mixed properly. 146:10 Yeah, hey, bro, hey, hey, hey. Hey, Depp and Mascani, don't shoot us. Let me tell you guys something. Hey, bro. They'll put you for eight, right? 146:17 This one will protect us. They'll put you for eight. 146:19 I'm not going to say the name of the artist, but there's a Mascandi artist that sent vocals for Gwyn Flavor to fix them. Yo, bro, you can't act unfixable, dog. 146:30 They're unfixable. Like, imagine a recorded vocal sentence of a Mascandi artist. Now, Gwyn is trying to work. Hey, they must send me the stamps, dog. They must send me the presets of how they tune these artists. Nah, you must fly them in. Still, bro, with the vocals. Like, still with the presets. Ah, he doesn't learn, dog. I'm like, ah. Is that a big guy? Is that a big person? 146:48 He's a big person. I can't say who it is, bro. He's going to fuck up my business. 146:51 But yo, bro, can we sing a little bit better, bro? 146:54 And since you're not getting brands, you need to make sure your business is on point. 146:59 Can I sing a little bit better, man? You know where your bread is buttered? 147:02 So, yeah, spin-off album. Okay, cool. You know what I mean? He's cashing in on the Maskandi wave. Dog, I think six or seven of the top ten albums of the year are Maskandi. 147:16 Oh, yeah. That's how your father is jumping into your brother. Who's my father? Who's my father? My father. Have you seen? My son. Have you seen him play now? He'll never get it. 147:27 He'll never get in. 147:29 He'll never get in. He'll never get in. 147:31 They'll kick him out the same way. 147:32 Nah, he's going to get in. Never. He's covered. Never. He's never. Trust me. Nah, he's never. Nah, Sony's not in, dog. Sony's not in, bruh. No, Sony's not in, dog. Papa, how's there, man? 147:45 Come on, dog. 147:46 Sony's not in, dog. 147:47 Wait, let's hear it. Sony's not in, dog. Where were you? Before we closed, where were you? 147:52 Camilla. Dog. That nigga. 147:55 Sony came up with some new boys, some of them as kind of the sign. And they're suffering. Hold on. They didn't finish. Okay. I saw them on the charts. Sonny has new boys, some of them as kind of the sign. Yeah. Yeah. 148:09 So I think they're working with Porto, those boys. So they're traveling. The whole HRNR travel with those Mascani boys. It's three or four of them. They travel with them and they go with Porto just to promote Mascani. From Molindalani, from Molindalani. Hey, HR, the only person that was not there is Malaj. Where do you travel with them? They travel with them to kind. To gigs. Oh, the boys are booked. Yeah. They're planting them. They're planting them. They're performing for free, but they're planting them. They're planting them. And Pori is the main man. 148:40 What do you mean Pori is the main man? He's with them also. Yeah. He will never get in. He moves around with him. So wherever police booked, they also booked. If they're around Joburg, they're not booked. Like he's playing. And then he's going to play. He said he's going to play probably 30 minutes. He's going to go step aside and give the Mascani DJ to play and those guys perform. And what is Dali Ounga doing? 148:58 It's not a lie. What is Dali Ounga doing? 148:59 That guy's planning a money heist. Okay, I'm not scared. And I'm scared of it. So Npori said, hey, come on. He gives them... Remember when Npori tried to do three-step with Jazzworks? And the whole team, yeah, so neither. 149:10 The country, no. Remember the three-step heist that he tried to do with Jazzworks? 149:16 Oh, remember the deep house? What was he doing? Afrotech now. He also went into Afrotech. That experiment. 149:22 Yeah. 149:22 Yeah? What happened with that? All these new experiments. None of them are going to work. It was magic with Amapiano, dog. It was magic. Pori cannot catch another wave, dog. He's not a surfer, dog. Ha ha! He's not a surfer, Doug. 149:34 The only thing he knows how to surf is the net. Doug also released a deluxe for Open Your Eyes. 149:40 That's a nice project. I saw he dropped his album. Shout out to him, man. He went to Bindaneshin and showed him how to podcast. Shout out. Shout out. And then Abidoza dropped Club Controller also. Club Controller? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 149:58 Prince KB? 149:59 No, Bobby Dozer. 150:01 Why Club Controller when Prince KB is a Club Controller? It's the name of the project. It's the name of the project. Now, how are you going to beat the classic track, Club Controller? 150:08 That's a classic, though. 150:10 Prince KB is getting booked for that song to date. 150:13 Ah, bro, you can't beat that shit. 150:15 TNS is not taking those bookings. 150:16 There's names that you must stay away from. 150:18 TNS is busy with Pori trying to make maskandi. 150:20 Why did Prince KB embarrass him, telling him I bought you under way? 150:23 Why did he do that? Why didn't he accept it like a man? 150:25 No, why didn't he accept it like a man? No, Prince KB put me on. He bought me under way. Don't be a hypocrite. Why? You wouldn't do something like that. I wouldn't. And you don't support it. I wouldn't. I don't support it. You know from your heart you don't support it. I don't support it. So why are you saying you should have accepted that? 150:37 No, but I'm saying that once someone has rocked you, hold on. Once someone has rocked you, it's like someone saying, ah, but when I, oh, my boy have men doing it or whatever. 150:43 You accept it, dog. You accept it, and then you try to deflect. That's the thing. Now, if you're crying, you're depressed. Oh, this guy said he bought me underpants. You know, then you look like a lame. 150:55 Dog, if someone takes your girl, and you're crying, someone took my girl, a girl's not going to run to you and say, oh, here's some pity pussy. No. 151:04 Same way with if someone takes your shine. You understand? You can't cry about it. You gotta be a man about it. You know what I mean? And then Pumintin and Mange Beats released United States. 151:14 Hold on, did you say duck's name properly? Yeah. Okay, duck. Pumintin and Mange Beats, United States of Africa. And then there's Jaivan with Mended Pieces. 151:23 I think that was it for today's episode. 151:24 We mentioned that last week, Jaibani's Mended Pieces. Hold on. I just want to say, Sfazo Mbini is now at number three. He's fallen behind Ground to Glory. 151:37 Now, I don't understand why people think that I'm hating on Latinova Pounds. 151:41 Yo, Latinova Pounds disappointed me. I didn't feel that his album was at the standard that he should be doing. 151:49 I am the GOAT! 151:51 Who's good? I'm not you. Hold on, no, no. My opinion. No, I'm not talking about you. I'm not you. You understand? I'm not you. If you think it's amazing, that's you. That's your standard. You're a consumer of music. I'm happy with the project. I'm a legendary producer of the greatest South African hip-hop music ever made. Best-selling album ever. You understand what I'm saying? That's who I am. So it's not at my standard. 152:14 I expect more from Latinova Pounds. And that comes from a place of love. Best-selling ever. 152:19 500k. Best-selling ever. Yes, it's the best-selling hip-hop album ever. Yes. Okay. Yes. 152:24 Forget the singles. Forget the singles. The one in two million sales on singles. Best-selling ever. 152:31 No, they're going to break that record. That was music pals. We're out of here. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. That's the gospel. Thank you.